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hell your in littleton, Come up and see me lets just turbo it..
you see my dyno post? 7psi 331hp
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Shane "RedZMonte"
2004 Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition -VIRGIN
1995 Monte Carlo Z34 14.38@101mph, 331hp/355tq
-Turbonetics T04E Super 60 Turbo, 2.5" Borla Catback, OBDII, 42.5# Injectors
2004 Subaru WRX STI -Lightly Modded (SOLD)
1994 Lumina Z34 -VIRGIN (SOLD)
1992 Lumina Z34-VIRGIN (RIP)
1992 L67 Lumina Z34 (SOLD)
1990 Turbo Grand Prix (SOLD)
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01-22-2010 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
bszopi
Have you priced out one of Hogan's typical manifolds?! I hope we can produce something that is much cheaper, but we will see...
As far as my thoughts... Well, my initial thought is to still have a 2 piece manifold, but quite different that the current setup, therefore allowing for many more top-end options, from a typical runner setup, to an SC setup, and possibly even a carb setup (for the RWD guys who want to keep it simple, but want the benefit of the alum heads).
Yes I have, from what we have discussed on the phone, a full setup with fuel rails, coolant bypass, etc, for about $3k
and for you, PM sent

Originally Posted by
RedZMonte
check this out:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=68838
you would need to make it low profile like this to fit under your hood. I would also assume you would need some sort of chamber with a little bit of Volume to provide equil pressure to all cylinders... you dont want he boost to dump into a offset intake manifold and feed the back 2 cyl more air then the front 4, would cause them to lean out and cannot correct it with tune without making everything overly rich..
Honestly i would look at doing a front mounted S/C like your eaton setup, easier to intercool and also you will get even boost pressure, not to mention allot less fab work, no coolant bypass ect..
I still think you will need to make a little clearance in the hood... here is a M90 top mounted on a LQ1, not even close to fitting. I wouldnt rule out the votech personally...
Dave96Z34 on mymonte, has a few pics of the build.. the problem he ran into is the 60* V6 is so tight its hard to make anything fit down inside between the heads.

I have read through that build on modular fords probably 20 times at least.....lol
I think it would fit if you build it right, the m90 is a lot bigger than the 1600ax I have.
And being easier to intercool i'm not so sure, with a top mount an easy sandwich intercooler like the gtp and any other top mount supercharger including that a4 saleen kit. With the front mount you have at least 3 or 4 custom mounts to have cnc'd plus a custom snout, not to mention the mess of pipes to route the w2a intercooler setup.....

Originally Posted by
RedZMonte
hell your in littleton, Come up and see me lets just turbo it..
you see my dyno post? 7psi 331hp
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I was in littleton, like 4 years ago, lol, I moved up to Hartsel for 2 years and moved back to SD at the beginning of this year.
I appreciate the offer for help for a turbo kit, but I said no turbo 3 years ago. I had some turbo headers actually and sold them because I decided I wanted a twin-screw. But i will be down at bandimere as will my friend greg, (he is always there) with the white alero.
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ok so after a little more thinking, i know how you can increase hood clearance.. there is a local performance shop to me that uses a top mounted twin screw on C5/C6 vettes and kept stock hood, its their newist design (previously had side saddle setup) Somehow or another they actually lowered the subframe of the vehicle (spacers), which inturn lowered the engine and gave them more clearance for the S/C.. i dunno if they had to add a camber kit or something to make the wheels straight again or what. you may want to investigate that as an option you can give yourself more room to build a intake manifold..
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Shane "RedZMonte"
2004 Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition -VIRGIN
1995 Monte Carlo Z34 14.38@101mph, 331hp/355tq
-Turbonetics T04E Super 60 Turbo, 2.5" Borla Catback, OBDII, 42.5# Injectors
2004 Subaru WRX STI -Lightly Modded (SOLD)
1994 Lumina Z34 -VIRGIN (SOLD)
1992 Lumina Z34-VIRGIN (RIP)
1992 L67 Lumina Z34 (SOLD)
1990 Turbo Grand Prix (SOLD)
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Spinning out of control
Would have to lower the complete suspension as well or the halfshafts wouldn't last too long I wouldn't think.
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Because stock sucks...
If you lower the subframe, the engine/tranny will lower with it so axles would stay in the same relation with it all. It would suck ground clearance wise. If I had a Vette, I think I would rather stick with a side saddle setup. It sounds a lot safer and it would be easier to intercool that way
At least they got 2 good effects from it.
1. top mount S/C w/ stock hood
2. lower center of gravity- but what good would that do you when those bolts break because they don't have as many threads to bite into to hold the subframe to the body?
-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed
94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed

Originally Posted by
TGP37
Step up to a man trans, step up to a 5-speed.

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RedZMonte is the shop corvette connection?

Originally Posted by
pocket-rocket
If you lower the subframe, the engine/tranny will lower with it so axles would stay in the same relation with it all. It would suck ground clearance wise. If I had a Vette, I think I would rather stick with a side saddle setup. It sounds a lot safer and it would be easier to intercool that way

At least they got 2 good effects from it.
1. top mount S/C w/ stock hood
2. lower center of gravity- but what good would that do you when those bolts break because they don't have as many threads to bite into to hold the subframe to the body?
It is an interesting concept to squeeze an extra inch of clearance out of the setup, if you just bought longer bolts, I really don't see any problem other than the top of the struts, and maybe some steering issues. The n-body i believe is 6 or 8 bolts holding the subframe on with two being the real big major ones.
Me personally I have a 2 in cowl that I could probably use for clearance issues with my setup, have to wait until I pick up my extra set of 3500 heads from storage and bolt them to a junk block to do some good measurements.....
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as long as you put in longer bolts and aligned it properly (camber kit if need be) your steering and everything would line up and work fine.. using a ~2" spacer to lower the sub fram would still be higher then mine with lowering springs and low profile tires.. my 17's are noticable shorter then the stock tires.. not a big deal honestly.
Pshhhhhh intercooler, smintercooler... only need to worry about that if your winding the piss out of the charger (pushing it past its efficentcy point).. the charger hes using will be just fine w/o a intercooler. and if not, add a little meth and a little Juice and your good to go! 
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Shane "RedZMonte"
2004 Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition -VIRGIN
1995 Monte Carlo Z34 14.38@101mph, 331hp/355tq
-Turbonetics T04E Super 60 Turbo, 2.5" Borla Catback, OBDII, 42.5# Injectors
2004 Subaru WRX STI -Lightly Modded (SOLD)
1994 Lumina Z34 -VIRGIN (SOLD)
1992 Lumina Z34-VIRGIN (RIP)
1992 L67 Lumina Z34 (SOLD)
1990 Turbo Grand Prix (SOLD)
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Originally Posted by
RedZMonte
as long as you put in longer bolts and aligned it properly (camber kit if need be) your steering and everything would line up and work fine.. using a ~2" spacer to lower the sub fram would still be higher then mine with lowering springs and low profile tires.. my 17's are noticable shorter then the stock tires.. not a big deal honestly.
Pshhhhhh intercooler, smintercooler... only need to worry about that if your winding the piss out of the charger (pushing it past its efficentcy point).. the charger hes using will be just fine w/o a intercooler. and if not, add a little meth and a little Juice and your good to go!
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I like juice, but seriously i think my car is low enough as it is, i will have to see, i haven't measured it since the last time I messed with the coilover height......
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The corvette shop is "Dragon Race Engineering/Pro Street" (D.R.E. and Pro St. mirged now are 1 shop) they actually just move up about 2 miles from my work. My buddies Turbo vette is down there getting tuned.
http://www.dragonrace.com/
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Shane "RedZMonte"
2004 Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition -VIRGIN
1995 Monte Carlo Z34 14.38@101mph, 331hp/355tq
-Turbonetics T04E Super 60 Turbo, 2.5" Borla Catback, OBDII, 42.5# Injectors
2004 Subaru WRX STI -Lightly Modded (SOLD)
1994 Lumina Z34 -VIRGIN (SOLD)
1992 Lumina Z34-VIRGIN (RIP)
1992 L67 Lumina Z34 (SOLD)
1990 Turbo Grand Prix (SOLD)
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Because stock sucks...
I would also think that this would push the nose of the car up 2" if they are using 2" spacers. That could mess with the F/R balance ever so slightly and change aerodynamics at high speeds. I know we don't have to worry about that sort of thing, but Vettes can get going a bit faster than we can.
-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed
94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed

Originally Posted by
TGP37
Step up to a man trans, step up to a 5-speed.
