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    heres a section from the hack...

    **************************
    ** F31 SHIFT PARAMETERS **
    **************************

    ** NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 4 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*
    9183 00 0 KSOLDEF %00000000 STATE BIT 0 = SOL A, BIT 1 = SOL B, 1ST GEAR
    9184 00 0 KSOLDEF2 %00000000 STATE BIT 0 = SOL A, BIT 1 = SOL B, 2ND GEAR
    9185 00 0 KSOLDEF3 %00000000 STATE BIT 0 = SOL A, BIT 1 = SOL B, 3RD GEAR
    9186 00 0 KSOLDEF4 %00000000 STATE BIT 0 = SOL A, BIT 1 = SOL B, 4TH GEAR
    ** NOTE: THE PRECEDING 4 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*
    **************************************
    * LOW RANGE SHIFT PATTERN PARAMETERS *
    **************************************
    9187 00 0 KLO12 0 MPH IF MPH > CAL, PRNDL LOW, SHIFT 1 TO 2
    9188 00 0 KLO21 0 MPH IF MPH < CAL, PRNDL LOW, SHIFT 2 TO 1
    *************************************
    * KICKDOWN SHIFT PATTERN PARAMETERS *
    *************************************
    9189 00 0 KDETNTLO 0 %TPS IF IN KICKDOWN, TPS < CAL, DISABLE KICKDOWN
    918A 00 0 KDETNTHI 0 %TPS IF TPS > CAL, ENABLE KICKDOWN MODE

    ** NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER
    918B 00 0 KICK21 0 MPH KICKDOWN 2-1 DOWNSHIFT SPEED
    918C 00 0 KICK32 0 MPH KICKDOWN 3-2 DOWNSHIFT SPEED
    918D 00 0 KICK43 0 MPH KICKDOWN 4-3 DOWNSHIFT SPEED
    * NOTE: THE PRECEDING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER**

    * NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER**
    918E 00 0 KIC12ENA 0 MPH KICKDOWN 1-2 SHIFT ENABLE SPEED
    918F 00 0 KIC23ENA 0 MPH KICKDOWN 2-3 SHIFT ENABLE SPEED
    9190 00 0 KIC34ENA 0 MPH KICKDOWN 3-4 SHIFT ENABLE SPEED
    * NOTE: THE PRECEDING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER**

    * NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER**
    9191 0000 0 KIC12RPM 0 RPM KICKDOWN 1-2 SHIFT ENGINE RPM SHIFT POINT
    9193 0000 0 KIC23RPM 0 RPM KICKDOWN 2-3 SHIFT ENGINE RPM SHIFT POINT
    9195 0000 0 KIC34RPM 0 RPM KICKDOWN 3-4 SHIFT ENGINE RPM SHIFT POINT
    * NOTE: THE PRECEDING 3 PARAMETERS MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*

    ************************************
    * PERFORMANCE SHIFT PATTERN TABLES *
    ************************************
    ** NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 TABLES MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*
    ***********************************************
    * F1P21 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 2-1 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    9197 00 0 F1P21 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    9198 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9199 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    919A 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    919B 00 0 0 MPH 25
    919C 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    919D 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    919E 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    919F 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91A0 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91A1 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91A2 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91A3 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91A4 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91A5 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91A6 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91A7 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1P32 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 3-2 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91A8 00 0 F1P32 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91A9 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91AA 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    91AB 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    91AC 00 0 0 MPH 25
    91AD 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    91AE 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    91AF 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    91B0 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91B1 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91B2 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91B3 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91B4 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91B5 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91B6 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91B7 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91B8 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1P43 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 4-3 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91B9 00 0 F1P43 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91BA 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91BB 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    91BC 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    91BD 00 0 0 MPH 25
    91BE 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    91BF 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    91C0 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    91C1 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91C2 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91C3 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91C4 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91C5 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91C6 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91C7 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91C8 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91C9 00 0 0 MPH 100

    *NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 TABLES MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*
    ***********************************************
    * F1P12 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 1-2 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91CA 00 0 F1P12 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91CB 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91CC 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    91CD 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    91CE 00 0 0 MPH 25
    91CF 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    91D0 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    91D1 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    91D2 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91D3 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91D4 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91D5 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91D6 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91D7 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91D8 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91D9 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91DA 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1P23 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 2-3 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91DB 00 0 F1P23 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91DC 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91DD 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    91DE 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    91DF 00 0 0 MPH 25
    91E0 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    91E1 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    91E2 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    91E3 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91E4 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91E5 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91E6 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91E7 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91E8 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91E9 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91EA 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91EB 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1P34 TABLE -- PERFORMANCE 3-4 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91EC 00 0 F1P34 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91ED 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91EE 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    91EF 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    91F0 00 0 0 MPH 25
    91F1 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    91F2 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    91F3 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    91F4 00 0 0 MPH 50
    91F5 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    91F6 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    91F7 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    91F8 00 0 0 MPH 75
    91F9 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    91FA 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    91FB 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    91FC 00 0 0 MPH 100
    * NOTE: THE PRECEDING 3 TABLES MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*

    *******************************
    * NORMAL SHIFT PATTERN TABLES *
    *******************************

    * NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 TABLES MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER*
    ***********************************************
    * F1N21 TABLE -- NORMAL 2-1 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    91FD 00 0 F1N21 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    91FE 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    91FF 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9200 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9201 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9202 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9203 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9204 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    9205 00 0 0 MPH 50
    9206 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    9207 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    9208 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    9209 00 0 0 MPH 75
    920A 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    920B 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    920C 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    920D 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1N32 TABLE -- NORMAL 3-2 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    920E 00 0 F1N32 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    920F 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9210 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9211 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9212 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9213 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9214 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9215 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    9216 00 0 0 MPH 50
    9217 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    9218 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    9219 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    921A 00 0 0 MPH 75
    921B 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    921C 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    921D 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    921E 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1N43 TABLE -- NORMAL 4-3 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    921F 00 0 F1N43 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    9220 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9221 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9222 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9223 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9224 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9225 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9226 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    9227 00 0 0 MPH 50
    9228 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    9229 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    922A 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    922B 00 0 0 MPH 75
    922C 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    922D 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    922E 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    922F 00 0 0 MPH 100
    ************************************************
    * NOTE: THE FOLLOWING 3 TABLES MUST BE KEPT TOGETHER IN ORDER
    * F1N12 TABLE -- NORMAL 1-2 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    9230 00 0 F1N12 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    9231 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9232 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9233 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9234 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9235 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9236 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9237 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    9238 00 0 0 MPH 50
    9239 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    923A 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    923B 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    923C 00 0 0 MPH 75
    923D 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    923E 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    923F 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    9240 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1N23 TABLE -- NORMAL 2-3 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    9241 00 0 F1N23 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    9242 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9243 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9244 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9245 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9246 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9247 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9248 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    9249 00 0 0 MPH 50
    924A 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    924B 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    924C 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    924D 00 0 0 MPH 75
    924E 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    924F 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    9250 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    9251 00 0 0 MPH 100

    ***********************************************
    * F1N34 TABLE -- NORMAL 3-4 SHIFT LINE *
    * VEH SPEED VS. % THROTTLE *
    * TABLE VALUE = MPH *
    ***********************************************
    9252 00 0 F1N34 0 MPH 00 %-TPS
    9253 00 0 0 MPH 06.25
    9254 00 0 0 MPH 12.5
    9255 00 0 0 MPH 18.75
    9256 00 0 0 MPH 25
    9257 00 0 0 MPH 31.25
    9258 00 0 0 MPH 37.5
    9259 00 0 0 MPH 43.75
    925A 00 0 0 MPH 50
    925B 00 0 0 MPH 56.25
    925C 00 0 0 MPH 62.5
    925D 00 0 0 MPH 68.75
    925E 00 0 0 MPH 75
    925F 00 0 0 MPH 81.25
    9260 00 0 0 MPH 87.5
    9261 00 0 0 MPH 93.75
    9262 00 0 0 MPH 100

    it has tables set up the same way as a DF bin would. this is from a manual tranny car, so it will definitely be blank no matter what. but i've also looked over the couple of automatic A1 BINs i have as well, also blank.

    i'm starting to wonder if a 7727/7730 can run a 4t60-e...
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  • #2
    BTW, i don't just run through hacks for no reason.... i made what i believe to be the most complete $A1 XDF to date. i managed to pump it up to 170KB....

    EDIT: removed the XDF, newest version is at the TP site
    Last edited by robertisaar; 09-15-2009, 11:34 PM.
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
    Latest nAst1 files here!
    Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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    • #3
      I don't think the 7730/7727 will run the electronic tranny even if the code is there, for one reason - memory. The electonic trannies are run with the 9396 ECM, which added more memory, mainly for the ability to run the tranny.
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      • #4
        right, i've read the same thing somewhere before. i know the EPROM has some onboard RAM, but i can't remember how much. it would be nice if i could figure out how to read that section of the code to see what all space is left...
        1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
        Latest nAst1 files here!
        Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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        • #5
          i wonder if you could run it on a 9396 since it is essentialy the same as a 7730 but with memory on it....

          pinout might need changing ??

          i dunno... id be willing to try it once im back in my house...next week, but i have no idea what is required lol

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          • #6
            since there is only one flag to change to enable it, not much, other than all of the tables related to it are completely blank...

            i imagine it could run, but DF has a few advantages over it, i'm not sure why anyone would run A1 in place of it...

            pinout might need slight adjustment, just have to match it to a 1227727 running A1, which is any 91-92 3.1 W body...

            if you want the diagram, i'll post it.
            1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
            Latest nAst1 files here!
            Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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            • #7
              sure, id like to have the info just for yuks,
              mines a 93 gp

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              • #8
                this should work obviously it's not going to show the pins for the shift solenoids, but it shouldn't be too tough to figure out...
                Attached Files
                1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                Latest nAst1 files here!
                Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                • #9
                  cool, do you have something with the 8f diagram

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                  • #10
                    ask, and ye shall receive.... or something like that.
                    Attached Files
                    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                    Latest nAst1 files here!
                    Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                    • #11
                      tyvm! now all i need to do is biggy back this 8f and let the df control the tranny
                      then get a turbo !!!!!!!!!!

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                      • #12
                        ..... you know, for as long as i've thought about it, i don't know why that exact setup didn't cross my mind.

                        i figured i would have to play with the algorithm enough to allow a 2-BAR MAP with DF to use boost...

                        but now...

                        8F controlling fuel/spark and DF for tranny... that sounds like a very workable setup.
                        1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                        Latest nAst1 files here!
                        Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                        • #13
                          Are you guys talking 2 PCM's or overlaying 8F and DF code together?
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                          • #14
                            2 PCMs. trying to stitch together 8F and DF could work, but there's much less complexity when going about it this way.

                            BTW: i just thought of something better:

                            DF + 59
                            1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
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                            Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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