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  • got my cluster installed, need to finish installing all the trim pieces. I've also started re gluing the center console back together, I'll try to get some pics tonight!
    Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

    I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

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    • The LC1 doesn't come with a gauge. I have mine running into the ECM. I then have the output displayed on a TunerViewII.

      I will NEVER own an LC-1 again. I had 2 at one point, and sold off my second one, because of the serial connectivity issues. I had a serial to USB converter which did work for a while, actually I had 2. Neither wanted to work with the LC-1 under Win7, and didn't want to go back to WinXP to find out if that would get it to work, because it would have been more hassle than it was worth at the time.

      The 14point7 products have native USB and work flawlessly, no need for free air calibrations, many features at a price point less than an competing products. I own the SLC_DIY v1, that was a complete solder up kit, built in display, extra inputs, etc, all for less than the price of the LC-1. The v2 is pre-assembled, with the only thing needed to assemble by the end user is the harness. There's other versions that are simpler, and cheaper, and others with more features like onboard datalogging, for more money.

      Don't get me wrong, my LC-1 has worked in my car for about 5 years now, but since I can't connect to the serial connection with my laptop (no native serial port), I'm screwed if I need to check any settings or make adjustments. I'm actually selling it to a friend of mine since he has a laptop with a serial port and will fit the set-up of his car better than the WBO2 he was going to use.

      Depending on what code you will be running in your ECM, you may or may not need a gauge. Some code has been set up to display WBO2 data in the datastream. You can use any gauge that accepts a 0 - 5V linear input. For ease of set-up an Innovate gauge would be easiest.
      James: 1985 GMC Jimmy, 3.2L turbocharged, intercooled hybrid 13.873 @ 99.08 218HP & 270FT/lbs @ the wheels
      The Daily: 2000 GMC Yukon
      1973 Datsun 240Z: Turbo intercooled LX9, running on '7749 with $59 and DIS. 12.71 @ 115

      "If you're not living on the edge, You're taking up too much space."

      Still waiting for the 1st or second Ostrich I was promised, from Paul.

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      • You can run the wideband through the EGR position signal line or the A/C pressure signal line, both are 0-5v. Then log that sensor and use this formula........

        (EGRvolt * 2)+10

        Mine is in HPT is using the EGR for now. Though some believe it causes problems w/ the tuning using the EGR signal line. I believe the A/C pressure signal line should be fine. I can't see A/C pressure messing with the spark or AFR like the EGR might with spark when logging wideband through it.

        ([PID.2811]*2)+9.8


        You using stock PCM? OBDI or II? I forget.....
        1996 Grand Prix | 3100v6 L82 | T04E-50 Turbo | Getrag 282 w/ EP LSD | SPEC-3 Clutch

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        • I use the PLX systems because both of my scanning suites for the Beretta and the Subaru have support for them via USB input. I can't modify what the Beretta software scans either because I'm still using UVScan that was being developed after DHP closed up but UVScan has also come to an end a few years ago unfortunately. I'd love to find another scanning suite that supports the DHP device and my wideband's with all the info I want to scan. Worse case I could always use the a/d inputs on my DHP to log the wideband input.

          Got Lope?
          3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
          Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
          Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
          12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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          • I'm going obd2, hence my master pinout thread in the obd 2 section, there's still a few missing pins, it's a work in progress. the gauge I'll be needing the most will be a boost gauge, I will be able to log the WB data through the DHP like 3400-95-modified said. I'd still like to have a gauge though so I can see real time where I stand.
            Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

            I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

            Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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            • Glowshift sells cheap WB set ups. Not too bad as long as you calibrate properly and compare the GS gauge readings to the NBO2 sensor at stoich.

              "Bitterness of a cheap product remains long after the sweetness of a great deal fades away"

              For $185, not a bad deal if you need something just for visual reference after tuning. link
              1996 Grand Prix | 3100v6 L82 | T04E-50 Turbo | Getrag 282 w/ EP LSD | SPEC-3 Clutch

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              • For $5 more you can get many more features using the 14point7.com SLC_DIY, including additional inputs, that can be logged via WinLog.

                For $10 less you can get the same functionality as that Glowshift piece.

                For more you can have the SLC_PP2 that can log data from multiple inputs to an SD card. Then there's the iDash, which has some very cool features that will link to a phone or laptop via WiFi.
                James: 1985 GMC Jimmy, 3.2L turbocharged, intercooled hybrid 13.873 @ 99.08 218HP & 270FT/lbs @ the wheels
                The Daily: 2000 GMC Yukon
                1973 Datsun 240Z: Turbo intercooled LX9, running on '7749 with $59 and DIS. 12.71 @ 115

                "If you're not living on the edge, You're taking up too much space."

                Still waiting for the 1st or second Ostrich I was promised, from Paul.

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                • The dashboard is "done"!



                  I'm going to do the door panels the same way. It looks awesome in person!
                  Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

                  I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

                  Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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                  • ordered 30' of welding cable for my remote mount battery, then I decided to shrink boot them together to help with packaging.
                    Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

                    I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

                    Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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                    • Why are you running the ground cable all the way from the battery to the back?
                      James: 1985 GMC Jimmy, 3.2L turbocharged, intercooled hybrid 13.873 @ 99.08 218HP & 270FT/lbs @ the wheels
                      The Daily: 2000 GMC Yukon
                      1973 Datsun 240Z: Turbo intercooled LX9, running on '7749 with $59 and DIS. 12.71 @ 115

                      "If you're not living on the edge, You're taking up too much space."

                      Still waiting for the 1st or second Ostrich I was promised, from Paul.

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                      • Originally posted by The_Raven View Post
                        Why are you running the ground cable all the way from the battery to the back?
                        I don't have a good place for a ground up front where the battery is going.
                        Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

                        I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

                        Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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                        • Just be sure the block isn't grounding through the throttle or trans cables. Can start a fire w/o obvious symptoms to warn you. I seen it happen to a minivan. Was in flames 1 block from the garage. Wasn't me, thank god. I'd die of embarrassment.

                          I did a 3 way grounding that tied the block, frame and subframe together. Then grounded the batt(-) to the frame in the trunk. Worked just fine, though I did run some spare "00" from batt(-) to the alternator frame to better ground the alt.

                          All my grounds and main power are "00" cable, thick stuff used by truck drivers. Kinda over kill but I like it.



                          btw, protect that welding cable from oil and oily grim. It will swell the insulation and eventually cause an open wire. That's the only downside I can think of. Keep the oil off it and you have a good battery cable set.
                          Last edited by TGP37; 03-22-2013, 06:56 PM.
                          1996 Grand Prix | 3100v6 L82 | T04E-50 Turbo | Getrag 282 w/ EP LSD | SPEC-3 Clutch

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                          • Originally posted by TGP37 View Post
                            btw, protect that welding cable from oil and oily grim. It will swell the insulation and eventually cause an open wire. That's the only downside I can think of. Keep the oil off it and you have a good battery cable set.
                            didn't think of that... shrink boot FTW...
                            Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

                            I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

                            Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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                            • more custom stuff...









                              Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

                              I get bummed out every time I type "titties" in the search bar and nothing pops up....

                              Built not bought, because bolt-ons don't...

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                              • I love your work, but I have always felt that the rear cylinders were the ones that needed help. At WOT that is. The energy built up pushes the air past the rears.

                                I dream of what can't be. Individual equal length runners(180) and a good size plenum.
                                95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                                High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                                Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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