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  • 01 GA 3400 Rebuild Again

    OK, so I blew my far right #4 piston again. I scored the cylinder. I was originally going to just throw a stock used 3400 in and leave out all the performance parts. but then it hit me.

    Re bore another .020 to make a total of .040 over on my block.
    From what I understand is that I can go .060 over before I start having problems right.

    I going to reordered some forged pistons from Arias pistons with a .020 larger bore size.
    $780 bucks (piston+Rings) no pins. I already have some.

    Still debating weather to leave my RSM S/C out of the mix. But if I put it back on the MAF is definitely going back in.

    heres what my ideal engine is so far. I have all this but the .040 bore

    01 GA GT S/C RSM setup
    Milzy stage 1 boost cam
    RSM 62mm TB
    Ported & polished upper plenum
    Comp Cams valve springs
    Milzy performance push Rods
    RSM S/C kit 8 pounds
    Stock spark plugs (should they be colder??????
    Stock Fuel pump
    Stock injectors
    Stock heads
    High volume oil pump
    And yes Im putting the MAF back in


    So other than than that do you guys see any problem areas I should address for a more performance reliable engine. Thanks a million

  • #2
    I say put the supercharger back on, put the MAF back in. I would also consider getting larger injectors as the stockers are pretty much going to be maxed out.

    Then get a tuner and put the spark table to that of a GTP Grand Prix and work with the PE. The stock spark tables in the grand am with improper fueling, and you are just asking to blow another engine.

    Also if you are not going to put the supercharger back on, I wouldn't waste the money on forged pistons.
    2000 Grand Am GT
    2011 Chevy Impala

    "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

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    • #3
      Check your pushrods lengths. Stock might not be the way to go.
      Ben
      60DegreeV6.com
      WOT-Tech.com

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      • #4
        What PE in what u were saying. Im pretty much set on keeping my S/C kit on (sorry matt) but should i go colder plugs. And im going to order those 36# injectors from milzy

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        • #5
          Originally posted by john_V63400 View Post
          What PE in what u were saying. Im pretty much set on keeping my S/C kit on (sorry matt) but should i go colder plugs. And im going to order those 36# injectors from milzy
          PE = the power enrichment table. Get yourself a DHP PowerTunr and read the manual along with the DHP forum, scan and scan again, make 1 change, then scan again. Might want to go 1 step colder on the plugs but scan first, pull your plugs and learn how to read them. Easier to get 28# injectors from a 4.2L Trailblazer I-6 (they drop right in with no modifications, and it's a smaller change in flow rate so tuning will be a tad easier).
          Lather, rinse, repeat. And no worries about the kit.
          Matt
          2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
          3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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          • #6
            oh I get
            Last edited by john_V63400; 02-03-2007, 01:56 AM.

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            • #7
              what year do i order those injetors for that trailblazer

              So Im going to order stock injectors from a 4.2 l tral blazer, and they drop right in, no problems.

              What year on that blazer so I can order those

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              • #8
                I don't know what year off the top of my head, but there's only been one generation of the Trailblazer so far, an I pretty sure GM only has 1 domestic 4.2L DOHC inline 6 engine, so go with that.
                Matt
                2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
                3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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                • #9
                  What else should I get with my setup


                  this is what I got so far

                  MAF sensor
                  28# injectors from a trailblazor
                  DHP power tuner

                  What else.

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                  • #10
                    If i buy some injectors from a 2002 trailblazer 4.2 lit. Engine
                    Your telling me they fit right in no mods what so ever, they just slide right in,

                    Point being, I found some on Ebay, so Im going to buy them if thats the case some please confirm thanks

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                    • #11
                      If you have the multec 2 injectors, then yes. I think you have an 03 so the answer is yes, they will work. I have a set of connectors here from a newer 3400 and I am using those same injectors.
                      Ben
                      60DegreeV6.com
                      WOT-Tech.com

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                      • #12
                        His car is an '01, which used multec 2's, so they work without any modification whatsoever (unlike the 36#ers Milzy sells).
                        Matt
                        2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
                        3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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                        • #13
                          Yes, the injectors will work with no modifications. All the injectors from any years 4.2l inline six (trailblazer and envoy), they are all the same (28lb/hr). You might have to switch over the O-rings on the ends from your stock injectors as the 28#'s might have thicker O-rings on them, but thats no big deal.

                          Those would definitely be a good deal to get from ebay. They have a stock spray pattern for a good idle and will be easy to dial in. They won't have as much head room as 36# or 42# injectors, but you won't have to change the wiring harness and they'll be cheaper.

                          It's better than nothing. Frankly I'm not surprised at all that your motor blew up using stock injectors and no maf after we all told you to put it back in. Oh well, after this rebuild since your doing it the right way you should have a potent setup when you're done! And yes, I think you shouldn't have any problems boring out the block one more time to clean up the cylinder walls.
                          '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
                          '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
                          13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
                          Gotta love boost!

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                          • #14
                            yeah me either, should I stay at .040 over or should I go bigger

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                            • #15
                              I'd think .040 should be fine as long as it doesn't take more than that to clean up the cylinder wall. Get the block cleaned up before you order the pistons obviously. Oh yeah, I definitely think you should also get spark plugs one range colder, and switch to iridium or copper tips.
                              '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
                              '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
                              13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
                              Gotta love boost!

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