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[robertisaar]

except for needing a few more female pins( i need like 5-10) and the actual connectors for whatever you end up using(7730/7727/9396, whichever). i have everything necessary.

[robertisaar]

scratch that, i have 53 pins ATM... i used 51 for the monte, so unless that fiero has more stuff that needs wired than the monte, that part is taken care of.

the only thing i need to make another harness is the three white plastic pieces (12129025) that are ~$2 a piece at mouser...

http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=xyz6lfZ1ktJ%252bD%252b5928mRHg%3D%3D

[Bridgetown]

I have a 7730 with male end connectors and about 10" of wire. I also have wirring diagrams and pinouts for my harness the way it is currently. I'm game if you are.

[robertisaar]

I have a 7730 with male end connectors and about 10" of wire. I also have wirring diagrams and pinouts for my harness the way it is currently. I'm game if you are.

ugh... i hate the 7730, but if its what you got, then it will work, you won't be the first one i've done... is the 1.5PCM wired correctly(as in they way a 3.4 camaro should be)? if so, then i already have the diagrams, but if there is ANY discrepancy, then i'll definitely need the one you have.

[Bridgetown]

I'm pretty sure other then the O2 sensors that it is the same as would be in the Firebird. I should send them to you regardless just in case. PM me your email and I'll get them to you. Is PDF format OK? Is the 7730 that bad? Everyone over on Pennock's raves about that damn thing.

[robertisaar]

email is my screenname here, just with @yahoo.com on the end...

PDF is fine, its usually what i end up mailing people and uploading to here anyways.

7730 isn't bad other than assembling the harness. its hard to tell in low-light which connector you're working with unless you know the color codes. the 7727/9396 on the other hand have it cast in the connector face...

so really, its fine, so long as you can keep moisture away from it, it just takes me longer to assemble them.

[Bridgetown]

I'll get those diagrams to you tomorrow. Moisture won't be an issue since the unit will be in the interior of the car. The 7730 is small too so it will probably work good with the small console it sits in. So how badly are you going to thrash my wallet?

[robertisaar]

So how badly are you going to thrash my wallet?

this should give you a good idea:

http://60degreev6.com/forum/f105/obd1-5-to-obd1-conversion-harnesses-t44115/page2#post400013

last post has the most up-to-date info...

[IsaacHayes]

If going by Roberts guide, a 9396 is what you use, or 7727.

For the smallest, I think the non weather proof 7730 would be the smallest, but then you'd have to figure out the pins to match them up as they are different than the 9396.

I think the 9396/7727 weatherproof are slightly smaller than the 3100 OBD1.5 ECM from the discussion with Robert I had.


EDIT: should have refreshed the page before posting.

[robertisaar]

If going by Roberts guide, a 9396 is what you use. I'm not sure if the 7727 would have the same pin out?

For the smallest, I think the non weather proof 7730 would be teh smallest, but then you'd have to figure out the pins to match them up as they are different than the 9396.

I think the 9396/7727 weatherproof are slightly smaller than the 3100 OBD1.5 ECM from the discussion with Robert I had.

7727 does have a LOT of the same pins as a 9396, only a few things different, and i have the PDFs to confirm it...

7730 pins: i have them already mapped out to connect to a 1.5 harness

7727/9396 ARE slightly smaller (about 1/2" in every direction) than the 1.5 ECM. not sure how big a 7730 is.

[IsaacHayes]

If the pins are different, then how come places say you can swap a 9396 in place of a 7727? Sure they all can run the same code, but not a direct swap as far as hardware replacement...

I might mount the 9396 in the spot of the OBD1.5 ECM if it's smaller, just make some tabs to attach to it.... That is once I get a final tune to it... Or get the prom extender... Hmm.

[robertisaar]

right, they are directly interchangeable, just certain minor things MAY not be the same. i'm doing the comparison as i type.

[robertisaar]

here is my spreadsheet of the similarities/differences.

as you can see there are SOME small differences, but they are nothing to worry about, since its in the algorithm that determines how they are read.

[ForcedFirebird]

Guess I'm not fast enough, and Robert get's this swap customer?

Sorry if I won't sell something that looks as good as it works

[robertisaar]

Sorry if I won't sell something that looks as good as it works

the wording is screwing with me: are you saying mine works well, but looks like ass?