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Getting More Power: Super/turbocharger?
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Turbo manifolds pop up every so often in the buy/sell section.Originally posted by ItsVince725 View PostI don't know how to weld, so I would probably have to purchase at least a manifold from someone who does.
Though, getting a welder and learning to at least tack weld plus cutting steel pipe/sheet is a valuable skill. It's not too hard though it definitely takes practice.
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I don't know how to weld, so I would probably have to purchase at least a manifold from someone who does.Originally posted by TGP37 View PostFor the above reasons and there is a lot more experienced help with turbo install versus SC install. I always see a lot more custom turbo installs versus custom SC installs.
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For the above reasons and there is a lot more experienced help with turbo install versus SC install. I always see a lot more custom turbo installs versus custom SC installs.
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I suggest turbo for fwd as well. At least then you can get some traction before pouring on the power, and with the weight shift cars go through on launch it can be beneficial.
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I still say turbo is the way to go for you, you'll have that much work and more in trying to make a supercharger work.
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I've got a lot of time...but currently no money.Originally posted by TGP37 View PostPick two qualities out of three
Powerful - Reliable - Inexpensive
Honestly, Nitrous is roughly $2 per/lb....no reason to not have the boost all the time. Probably the ONLY bolt on kit available except for custom turbo/super kits sold by users abroad.
How much time do you have for this boost project? how much $$$ can you toss into it?
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Pick two qualities out of threeOriginally posted by ItsVince725 View PostFour grand?!
Yikes!
Powerful - Reliable - Inexpensive
Honestly, Nitrous is roughly $2 per/lb....no reason to not have the boost all the time. Probably the ONLY bolt on kit available except for custom turbo/super kits sold by users abroad.
How much time do you have for this boost project? how much $$$ can you toss into it?Last edited by TGP37; 11-08-2012, 01:01 PM.
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The biggest obstacle I feel is welding. After that, a good pair of hands and a firm mind to design the thing.Originally posted by pocket-rocket View PostThis, because we don't drive Honda Civics and have 10,000 bolt on kits to pick from. Everything to boost a 60v6 (that didn't come from a TGP originally) will be pretty much a custom deal, and custom=big bucks.
Even then, I had some skill welding with a mig and still screwed up my first turbo manifold.
Edit: Looking back I thought I had welding skill. With lots of practice on the tig, I finally got it.Last edited by TGP37; 11-07-2012, 06:16 PM.
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This, because we don't drive Honda Civics and have 10,000 bolt on kits to pick from. Everything to boost a 60v6 (that didn't come from a TGP originally) will be pretty much a custom deal, and custom=big bucks.Originally posted by TGP37 View PostBut they all are work. Cause if it was easy, everyone would do it.
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The work isnt too bad really.
Get a cheap welder so you can tack weld a box and turbo flange to the crossover. Tack weld a piece of steel over the rear manifold out.
Route the turbo out to the down pipe now separated from the rear manifold. Again only have to tack weld the piping.
Find a welder who can tig weld the tacked up pipe.
After that, the rest of the mods needed....like fueling is required for any boosted app.
Honestly, I think supercharging a 60v6 would be harder to do. But they all are work. Cause if it was easy, everyone would do it.
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Putting in a turbo seems like quite a bit of work...Originally posted by TGP37 View PostTurbo, super or NOS...they all increase torque. The super has boost early on but cost roughly 30 out of every 100 hp boosted. The Turbo is far more efficient with less parasitic waste.
A turbo can get into boost pretty quickly if tuned and matched to the engine right. The advantage a turbo has is they can cruise highway and help save fuel by utilizing exhaust energy otherwise wasted by increasing VE.
If I had a choice, I would go turbo. But thats just me, superchargers can be lots of fun too.
But if it produces more power with less parasitic loss, it would be worth it. I just don't like NOS because I want my power all the time, not having to push a button to get more power.
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Originally posted by ItsVince725 View PostNitrous is not something I'm into.
I want power all the time, not just a shot of power every once in a while. Plus the added torque one gets with a nice supercharger.
Turbo, super or NOS...they all increase torque. The super has boost early on but cost roughly 30 out of every 100 hp boosted. The Turbo is far more efficient with less parasitic waste.
A turbo can get into boost pretty quickly if tuned and matched to the engine right. The advantage a turbo has is they can cruise highway and help save fuel by utilizing exhaust energy otherwise wasted by increasing VE.
If I had a choice, I would go turbo. But thats just me, superchargers can be lots of fun too.
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