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  • #1

    LS4 = 60* pattern

    Well, I did not know that. Now I do...



    Greg
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  • #2
    oh snap
    Past Builds;
    [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/SuperDave]1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH[/url]
    [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/5]1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH[/url]
    Current Project;
    [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/6]1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH[/url]

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    • #3
      now thats a swap id consider
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h5/95blackz26/sigpic2.jpg[/IMG]
      [SIZE=1][B]99 Grand Am GT[/B][/SIZE]
      [SIZE=1]3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
      Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
      [URL="http://www.wot-tech.com/shop/cams/rollerregrinds/stock3400sims/3400%20with%20Ported%203500%20Top%20End/1357.pdf"]1357[/URL] cam 227 233 .050 dur[/SIZE][SIZE=1] 515 515 lift 112 lsa
      15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come[/SIZE]
      [URL="http://www.motortopia.com/garage/cars/95blackz26"]
      [/URL]

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      • #4
        Is that just the DoD version in the Impala SS? I know that one they made the block shorter too to fit better transverse.

        Or does the truck LS4 have the same pattern?
        [URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/"][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC][/URL][SIZE=1][COLOR="RoyalBlue"][/COLOR][URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/ss-todo.htm"][IMG]http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/signature1.jpg[/IMG][/url] [COLOR="#FF4000"]New 2010 project (click image)[/COLOR]
        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
        [/SIZE] [SIZE=1]16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???[/SIZE] [SIZE=1][U]
        Original L82 Longblock[/U] with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

        [/SIZE]

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        • #5
          The Grand Prix GXP's have the shorter ones too. Hmmm...I wonder if my dad would miss his....
          1995 Grand Am SE

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          • #6
            The LS4 is a smaller 5.3 L (325 inł) version of the Generation IV block. Though it has the same displacement as the Vortec 5300 LH6, it differs in that it has an aluminum block rather than an iron one and it uses the same cylinder head as the Generation III LS6 engine.

            A version of this engine is adapted for transverse front-wheel drive application. In order to fit into the smaller engine compartments designed for V-6s, the LS4 engine block had to be shortened by one inch. Displacement on Demand is also used. Output of this version is 303 hp (226 kW) and 323 ft·lbf (438 N·m).

            Applications:
            2006-2008 Chevrolet Impala SS
            2006-2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
            2005-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
            2008 Buick LaCrosse Super
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h5/95blackz26/sigpic2.jpg[/IMG]
            [SIZE=1][B]99 Grand Am GT[/B][/SIZE]
            [SIZE=1]3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
            Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
            [URL="http://www.wot-tech.com/shop/cams/rollerregrinds/stock3400sims/3400%20with%20Ported%203500%20Top%20End/1357.pdf"]1357[/URL] cam 227 233 .050 dur[/SIZE][SIZE=1] 515 515 lift 112 lsa
            15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come[/SIZE]
            [URL="http://www.motortopia.com/garage/cars/95blackz26"]
            [/URL]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by geldartb View Post
              The LS4 is a smaller 5.3 L (325 inł) version of the Generation IV block. Though it has the same displacement as the Vortec 5300 LH6, it differs in that it has an aluminum block rather than an iron one and it uses the same cylinder head as the Generation III LS6 engine.

              A version of this engine is adapted for transverse front-wheel drive application. In order to fit into the smaller engine compartments designed for V-6s, the LS4 engine block had to be shortened by one inch. Displacement on Demand is also used. Output of this version is 303 hp (226 kW) and 323 ft·lbf (438 N·m).

              Applications:
              2006-2008 Chevrolet Impala SS
              2006-2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
              2005-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
              2008 Buick LaCrosse Super


              welp, looks like i found my next swap
              Past Builds;
              [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/SuperDave]1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH[/url]
              [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/5]1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH[/url]
              Current Project;
              [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/6]1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH[/url]

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                welp, looks like i found my next swap
                Not so fast. The starter mounts in the 10 o'clock position to the transmission, not the block...

                Might make things a bit difficult...

                LS4 DoD 4T65E TAPShift Fiero Swap Main Page
                http://www.gmtuners.com/LS4/swap1.htm


                Greg
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                Last edited by Greg55_99; 12-30-2007, 07:34 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Greg55_99 View Post
                  Not so fast. The starter mounts in the 10 o'clock position to the transmission, not the block...

                  Might make things a bit difficult...

                  LS4 DoD 4T65E TAPShift Fiero Swap Main Page
                  http://www.gmtuners.com/LS4/swap1.htm


                  Greg
                  Nice..

                  I've got plenty of room there.
                  Past Builds;
                  [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/SuperDave]1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH[/url]
                  [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/5]1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH[/url]
                  Current Project;
                  [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/6]1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH[/url]

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    How will you overcome the DoD components?

                    I remember someone swapped a LS1 in their GTP before they came out with the GXP.
                    [URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/"][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC][/URL][SIZE=1][COLOR="RoyalBlue"][/COLOR][URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/ss-todo.htm"][IMG]http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/signature1.jpg[/IMG][/url] [COLOR="#FF4000"]New 2010 project (click image)[/COLOR]
                    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                    [/SIZE] [SIZE=1]16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???[/SIZE] [SIZE=1][U]
                    Original L82 Longblock[/U] with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

                    [/SIZE]

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
                      How will you overcome the DoD components?

                      I remember someone swapped a LS1 in their GTP before they came out with the GXP.
                      I'm sure by the time i'd actually get to this swap we'd have it figured out... not gonna happen till atleast '09 if i still have the car then. Besides, i'm making more power with my 3500 then that thing has.
                      Past Builds;
                      [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/SuperDave]1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH[/url]
                      [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/5]1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH[/url]
                      Current Project;
                      [url=http://www.v6z24.com/registry/superdave/6]1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH[/url]

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                      • #12
                        It occurs to me that is would be a good candidate for a rear engined swap. Kennedy Engineering has adapters to mate a 60 degree V6 to a VW, Porsche or Corvair transaxle. The starter bolts to the transmission and the engine is pretty lightweight. Just thinking…

                        Greg

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                        • #13
                          Actually its the crank that's shorter. And it was shortend on both ends. To remove the DOD you would need to just run regular lifters and replace the valley cover with a regular one.
                          Lorenzo
                          '11 DODGE Challenger R/ T Classic 57M6 Green with Envy "Giant Green Squid"
                          '92 PONTIAC Grand Prix SE 34TDCM5 "Red Lobster"

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                          • #14
                            http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2390354


                            2002 LS4 swap in progress.

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                            • #15
                              Just swap the lifters? If it's that simple that's awesome. LS4 + 5 Speed swap would be nice for my car
                              [URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/"][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC][/URL][SIZE=1][COLOR="RoyalBlue"][/COLOR][URL="http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/ss-todo.htm"][IMG]http://isaachayes.60degreev6.com/z26/signature1.jpg[/IMG][/url] [COLOR="#FF4000"]New 2010 project (click image)[/COLOR]
                              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                              [/SIZE] [SIZE=1]16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???[/SIZE] [SIZE=1][U]
                              Original L82 Longblock[/U] with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

                              [/SIZE]

                              Comment

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