Block modifications

[01GPGT]

hmmm might be hitting a snag


got a look at the bell hoising and i think i might weeken it if a try to clearance it for a starter. hmmm this kind of bites going to go look at one inperson tomarrow at a local yard and hold it up to a 3x00 block and see what i need to do. if wourse comes to wours i will have to use a RWD 3.4

[geoffinbc]

If your using a manual trans you may be able to keep the drivers side starter if you can find the correct bell housing. 2.2L engines in S-10's used a driver side starter with the same bellhousing pattern. There was also that Camaro housing from the 80's that had dual starter pockets.

[01GPGT]

a T-5 would die a horrid death as soon as a put boost to it so i am going to use an auto trans. mainly the 700-r4 from the 80's camaro with a 2.8-3.1L

[ForcedFirebird]

The 93 f-body is also the same trans in a different case, just an FYI.

Wasn't there a Trooper trans that had the dual starter pockets, or was that also their manuals?

[01GPGT]

good to know a bought the '93. was not 100% sure when it became the 4T60-E i know a 4T60 will work (non electronic)

[robertisaar]

T=FWD(or technically with a fiero its RWD)
L=RWD....

4l60=/=4t60

[ForcedFirebird]

T=FWD(or technically with a fiero its RWD)
L=RWD....

4l60=/=4t60

t = transverse (so that makes Fiero correct)
l = longitudinal

[robertisaar]

thats the more technical way of saying it(and correct according to GM), but usually when i explain it that way, i get a real confused stare...

[01GPGT]

i know that i had a brain fart


so any 4L60 before it became electronicly controled

[ForcedFirebird]

94 up is electric trans for the "L" designation.

[geoffinbc]

You don't necessarily have to use the T5 from an S-10. Chevy used the same trans to bellhousing patter and Ford in the later years. I am not sure on all the details but a T5 from a Mustang or perhaps a T56 might be a possibility .

If an Auto is your choice then would a 4L60E from a 2.2L S-10 fit the bill? The starter is on the driver side. The only thing you would need is a controller and several companies have that covered.

[01GPGT]

really? i did not know that. doese the 2.2 have the metric bolt pattern like the 660?

i can get a 4l60 for a S-10 cheaper then one from a camaro as well so this would be a win

[ForcedFirebird]

Yes, same pattern.GM small corporate pattern.

[01GPGT]

well hot damn. this makes it alot easier

[WrathOfSocrus]

Are the those transmissions the same as the 4.3 except for the bellhousing? I know later year auto's with the removable bellhousing look identical but i believe those are electrically different from the mid 90's ones. I was reading on s10 forum that the 2.2 auto is the 'little brother' of the 4.3 auto but wasnt sure what the differences were or what years it covered.