Our 01' venture with 230k miles gets 25 MPG at 70 MPH. I never really checked for around town mileage. The 3400's seem good with fuel, I figure the 3500 would be also.
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I seriously thought of it LSX motor but they strike me as expensive to get parts for and I would have to fab up some bracket to use the existing AC compressor where as I can acquire reserpine brackets of a RWD 660 camaro/firbird and utilize all my stock accessories.
There are plenty of untouched LSx's motors in our friendly neighborhood junkyard. $300 dollars out the door with computer and harness(minus accessories). Nobody pulls them, they get recycled
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[/QUOTE]I'm not too familiar with gm's ecu's, I left the chevy dealer in '03, how tune-able is this ecm and how much does tuning equipment cost?
yeah if your trailblazing like this I agree, get it running first, but keep it in mind when re-engineering, and I like to make things so its easy to pull the assembly if needed, like mounting/wiring the pcm so the engine can be removed with the harness. every man needs a welder, get it back lol
I have already embarrassed quite a few drivers on the road, tunning takes some reading,time and a wide band, give it try, you sound well qualified.
you cant beat a diesel, look into an ALH from a vw, mine has over 300ftlbs after a reflash and injectors, I pulled my buds caravan from a busy street when it broke down with it and floored it, he said it put him back in his seat, I felt like i was towing an anchor but easily merged with traffic lol[/QUOTE]
I'm understanding the 7730 ECM from the late 80's early 90's? I don't know much about the later ECMs the OBD2 and later. I do know the 411 ECM used with the LS motors are excellent but haven't a clue on how to the tune them.
I actually looked into an ALH because they can reach 350 ft-lbs of torque with minimal mods. My 305 was a factory 255 torque and still manage to pull our 26 ft travel trailer.
However, diesel is at $4.20 a gallon where I'm at and gas is $3.49 so that kinda throws a wrench in it.
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How about a 3900 swap in that???Originally posted by carbon View PostThe problem is that the nut behind the wheel of this particular van is a certain female and when I ask why the average fuel economy always goes up when I drive it, she just looks away...
Regardless, the thing is still a pig. The last U-vans had so much frontal area, it is a hopeless case for aero on the freeway too.

Mine is more awesome with alloy wheels and roof rack spars...
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Its similar here, but its always equaled out better for me, I beat the crap out of this car and have never got below 42mpg, grandpa driving will net close to 60. Ive seen a four runner put down 30's with that engine. One last suggestion, dont know how much room your willing to sacrifice but you could always go with a setup like this with some wood gas and say f petroleum pricesOriginally posted by carbon View PostHowever, diesel is at $4.20 a gallon where I'm at and gas is $3.49 so that kinda throws a wrench in it.
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oh I don't think any man on earth knows how to adjust that type of nut, I got lucky with a early grandma driver, maybe a real stiff spring on the throttle? just put a lil slop in it so its a real calf cramp to to get past 15% throttle lmaoOriginally posted by carbon View PostThe problem is that the nut behind the wheel of this particular van is a certain female
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The funny thing is the 3900 was optional and the last year they were made, they only had the 3900. And beyond that, the transmission came with a 3.69 final drive when paired with the 3900, as opposed to the 3.29 with the 3500. Guess what? 40HP increase and a hell of a lot easier to drive with the same fuel economy. Something to be said for not putting a too small of an engine in a large vehicle.Originally posted by b1jetmech View PostHow about a 3900 swap in that???
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I am going to be starting almost the same swap as you are thinking of soon in a 1993 c1500. It has a 350 tbi, 4l60e, 3.73 gear... going to use obd II because I have the stuff to tune it already. I am planing on keeping the 4l60e that is in it by using the same adaptor that mars used
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chevy-...ates,3280.html just have a few more parts to collect before I start the swap!1999 Olds Alero 2.4 to 3500 swap (running). totaled by a honda
1992 lumina 4 door 3500 3spd auto 15.020 @93.5 mph
1984 Cavalier type 10 hatch 3100 5spd!!!
14.96@91.47 in the 1/4
9.63@74.36 in the 1/8th
14.30 on slicks! scrapped due to rust!
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Can any OBDII 60* PCMs control a 4L60E? Your best bet for simplicity is probably the 93-95 F-body 3.4 which is SFI capable and was available with a 4L60E. There is now cheap tuning support for it as well.'89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
'86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed
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from what I understand is yes if car the pcm came from had a 4spd auto trans to start with. just have to copy the the trans settings from a obd II 4l60e vehicle and adapt the wiring correctly. If I am unhappy with the performance of the obd II set up I will go megasquirt.Originally posted by caffeine View PostCan any OBDII 60* PCMs control a 4L60E? Your best bet for simplicity is probably the 93-95 F-body 3.4 which is SFI capable and was available with a 4L60E. There is now cheap tuning support for it as well.1999 Olds Alero 2.4 to 3500 swap (running). totaled by a honda
1992 lumina 4 door 3500 3spd auto 15.020 @93.5 mph
1984 Cavalier type 10 hatch 3100 5spd!!!
14.96@91.47 in the 1/4
9.63@74.36 in the 1/8th
14.30 on slicks! scrapped due to rust!
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