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    1991 Sunbird 3.1 starts easily, runs nicely for a few minutes, the dies. Restarting thereafter progressively produces worse results, harder starting, rougher running, less and less time till it cuts out. Thoughts?

  • #2
    O2 sensor?
    '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
    '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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    • #3
      I had the same problem on a 1991 Z-24. "Eventually"... i figured it out to be a bad injector, really low resistance. The ecm kept turning down the fuel to bring the to bring the A/F in line until it shut the engine off. Pop the upper intake and ohm out the individual injectors. Good luck.

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      • #4
        could be either, really. or a failing coil/ICM.

        unplug the O2 sensor, try and run it, you'll set a SES light, but if that's the problem, it won't reoccur.

        the injectors used on the 2.8/3.1 failing is fairly common at this point, you may have to get the engine warm to see the injector(s) test badly, they could test well when cold.
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        • #5
          Unplugging the O2 sensor could also cause the engine to run better if the problem is a faulty injector.
          '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
          '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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          • #6
            Wow, great info...thank you! I'll be back with updates when I have time to try these tests...thanks!

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            • #7
              How do you 'ohm out' injectors? When you say upper intake your talking about the upper plenum right?

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              • #8
                Found an article (series of articles) that explains testing the resistance across fuel injectors:


                Also I haven't had time to get under the hood yet but I just started it and gave it gas before it was good and warm (last time I let it idle for awhile before giving it gas) and it was hesitating and smelled like a rich mix with unspent fuel coming out the exhaust. Does that help pinpoint O2 Sensor vs. Bad fuel injector?

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                • #9
                  Change that O2, get a Denso if you can. Have you tried some Sea Foam in the tank yet?
                  95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                  High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                  Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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                  • #10
                    Could be a plugged up cat, too. When they get hot, they can choke it out.

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                    • #11
                      If it's rich all the time it could be the coolant temp sensor. I always say O2 because that seems to be what many overlook. Oh and if you have a cat converter on the car it's trash now.
                      95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                      High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                      Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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                      • #12
                        I think it is the coolant temp sensor! I think that was the one wire I couldn't figure out where to put back after I finished replacing the o ring on the oil distributer!!!!
                        Last edited by hal.lyman; 05-19-2015, 11:23 PM.

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                        • #13
                          First thing tomorrow I look here to make sure I did (didn't do?) that!

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                          • #14
                            I had it plugged in....I did unplug the O2 Sensor and it ran much better! I would have let it run longer but it started smoking, I think it's where I sprayed some solvent and it just needs to burn off, all the same I don't feel like playing fire fighter today, but it looks like changing out the O2 Sensor might do the trick!

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                            • #15
                              That's good, love an easy fix! Just remember to change the oil. That stuff has to have a good amount of gas in it.
                              95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                              High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                              Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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