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i want to buy S&S headers and put them on my beretta. but i was wodering tif the were goin to fit okay. i know they will bolt up and fit but i didnt know if the rear header would hit the body or anything like that.
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1996 Beretta
3100 SFI TURBO
T28 60 Trim Turbo at 9psi, Stage 1 turbo cam mms, lifter upgrade springs mms, P&P heads, ls6 Valve Springs, Ported exhaust manifolds, Hyperuetectic pistons SP, 3.29 trani, MSD 8.5 wires, open exhaust, Pulstar plugs, 3400 intake manifolds, ported TB, 36 lb/hr injectors, RCI Fuel cell, Walbro 255 pump, A/C Bypass, and much more.
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the rear wont fit youll have to modify it. search for a guy named 3400-95-modified, he modified a set to fit.
two solution i know of are cut the firewall and modify the rear header.sigpic
99 Grand Am GT
3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur 515 515 lift 112 lsa
15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come
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yeah u gotta modify the rear pipes, they need to bend down more. i got a set for mine, but havnt even taken them outside lolsigpic
88 Beretta CL- 13.641@102.76mph (rwd LS1/t56 conversion in progress)
77 Celica GT- 3400/3500 swap in progress (engine from the beretta)Comment
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Yeah I got pics posted on Bstuff... here they are...
Its not EASY to do.
Here are some pics of the modifications I had to do to the S&S headers to get them to fit my car... Also pictured is Erics unmolested set... which will soon receive the same treatment.
A few notes of things I did was cut all three tubes at the back flange and bent the main header down further to give it a sharper angle, then shortened and angled the last collector in the opposite direction so it wasn't aiming so far down. And lastly re-aligned the cross over pipe again.
Completed header
Last collector cut and weld.
Cross over hacks, It could have been done it one cut on each side but since I didn't have both on the same motor it took me two or three shots.
Bottom of rear down tubes.
Angle of mine
Comparison to unmodified... the rear flange does angle it a little more too since its not flat.
Collector comparison
collector flatness comparison.
I have no definite measurements yet, I plan on bolting it to the motor and getting a comparison from stock S&S and my set so I at least know the difference in angle between the two sets.
Got Lope?
3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBSComment
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Time to bring up my imfamous picture, taken back in... 2004?? when the S&S headers were first introduced (I was one of the first people to recieve a set). Anyway, here is a comparison shot showing the different angles between a stock Beretta downpipe and the S&S headers. Enjoy!
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89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blogComment
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what if i just get a set of 3400 exhaust manifolds and port them out, will that help. also are the 3100 and 3400 exhaust manifolds the same?
1996 Beretta
3100 SFI TURBO
T28 60 Trim Turbo at 9psi, Stage 1 turbo cam mms, lifter upgrade springs mms, P&P heads, ls6 Valve Springs, Ported exhaust manifolds, Hyperuetectic pistons SP, 3.29 trani, MSD 8.5 wires, open exhaust, Pulstar plugs, 3400 intake manifolds, ported TB, 36 lb/hr injectors, RCI Fuel cell, Walbro 255 pump, A/C Bypass, and much more.
13.1 @ 103 mph best in the 1/4 mileComment
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I like my pic better it compares a working set of S&S headers and the stock S&S header.
Yes you were my inspiration. LOL
Got Lope?
3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBSComment
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What about these?????
1996 Beretta
3100 SFI TURBO
T28 60 Trim Turbo at 9psi, Stage 1 turbo cam mms, lifter upgrade springs mms, P&P heads, ls6 Valve Springs, Ported exhaust manifolds, Hyperuetectic pistons SP, 3.29 trani, MSD 8.5 wires, open exhaust, Pulstar plugs, 3400 intake manifolds, ported TB, 36 lb/hr injectors, RCI Fuel cell, Walbro 255 pump, A/C Bypass, and much more.
13.1 @ 103 mph best in the 1/4 mileComment
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i just looked on pacesetters site and it says there a fit for the 3100/3400
sigpic03' 3100 slp cat back-custom fwi-gmpp trailing arms-mrz udp-aeroforceComment
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havent heard to many good things bout pacesetter headers especially on gp forums, i would think s&s is better quality from what ive seen on the boards94 BerrettaZ26 3400,5 spd, aluminum flywheel, stg3+ spec clutch, poly mounts everywhere, strut and strut to rad braces, s&s headers, euro mirrors, and taillights, E36 headlights, blk widow spoiler, GTU rimz, intrax, KYB, OBD2 swap rear disk swap with ss lines and ss clutch line, addco rear bar
07 Chrysler 300 Base, with C frt bumper blk halo headlights and foglights. Coming soon tinted taillights and 22". The Family ride
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one of my freinds got pacesetters on his v6 4runner. it sounded like an old vw bus lolsigpic
88 Beretta CL- 13.641@102.76mph (rwd LS1/t56 conversion in progress)
77 Celica GT- 3400/3500 swap in progress (engine from the beretta)Comment
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Pacesetters have more connections, and still won't clear like the S&Ssigpic
New 2010 project (click image)
1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
Original L82 Longblock with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.
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There are no headers for a Beretta, except for the ones I modify and after shanes set, I'm DONE doing that.
Thats why I posted pics of what you need to do to accomplish what I did.
Bolted to my test motor I had to add 20* to the angle downward, I started with around 40 and ended with 59 to get them to match my set.
Got Lope?
3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBSComment
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We are going to lock you in a basement and make you modify headers and give you 50cents a day and a slice of bread Jon.
sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
Original L82 Longblock with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.
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Thats just krewl ^^^ lol
thanx to jon and the other guy some of us will have headers for these cars and i bugged jon for awhile and i know ill be getting a quality job from himand have no worries and when i get my car runnin ill let him see how fun it is to have a 5spd w/ similar setup to him w/o the cam, and im pretty sure he'll have a tired leg playin w/ stg3 clutch94 BerrettaZ26 3400,5 spd, aluminum flywheel, stg3+ spec clutch, poly mounts everywhere, strut and strut to rad braces, s&s headers, euro mirrors, and taillights, E36 headlights, blk widow spoiler, GTU rimz, intrax, KYB, OBD2 swap rear disk swap with ss lines and ss clutch line, addco rear bar
07 Chrysler 300 Base, with C frt bumper blk halo headlights and foglights. Coming soon tinted taillights and 22". The Family rideComment
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