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  • dohcfiend
    King Chalupa
    • Jan 2004
    • 2351

    #1

    knock sensor questions

    how do they function? are they powered or do they just send an output signal to the ecm?

    lastly, if all they do is send a signal and if say u have a 91-95 ecm system with a 96-97 engine, could u splice the second one in paralell to the other one and they both function correctly?
    The Official Rotating Mass Nazi
  • pepsi_coke
    • Sep 2004
    • 288

    #2
    http://www.60degreev6.com/modules.ph...rtid=32&page=1
    This sensor is screwed into the block and detects detonation. If knocking or pinging is sensed the ECM will retard the ignition timing to prevent serious engine damage. Depending o­n the strength of the knock the ECM will pull a set amount of timing very fast and then slowly reduce the knock retard back to 0 or more knock is encountered, whichever happens first.

    The circuitry in the knock sensor pulls the +5V input voltage down to 2.5V, the knock sensor then produces an AC voltage that rides the 2.5V DC voltage. A knock will cause a voltage spike in AC voltage that oscillates about the 2.5V bias, if the spike is above 3V it is considered knock.
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    • dohcfiend
      King Chalupa
      • Jan 2004
      • 2351

      #3
      so in other words probably not. thanx.
      The Official Rotating Mass Nazi

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      • dohcfiend
        King Chalupa
        • Jan 2004
        • 2351

        #4
        last thing. can i pull the wiring back and hook up the front one instead of the rear one and everything still function correctly?
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        • your_I.D.
          • Mar 2005
          • 337

          #5
          I dont see why not. Are the part # the same?
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          • Kohburn
            custom fab-whore
            • Apr 2005
            • 165

            #6
            yeah you can use one or the other

            if you exhaust routing going out the back then using the front sensor would be benefficial to avoid exhaust related false readings

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            • dohcfiend
              King Chalupa
              • Jan 2004
              • 2351

              #7
              hmmmmm. very nice. i like. thanx guys.
              The Official Rotating Mass Nazi

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              • dohcfiend
                King Chalupa
                • Jan 2004
                • 2351

                #8
                sorry to bring it back up but i can't believe it. i was f@@king right. i was helping a bud of mine with a lt-1 harness and it had 2 knock sensors and they were wired paralell to 1 wire going to the ecm. YAY
                The Official Rotating Mass Nazi

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                • farmerz24
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 361

                  #9
                  so then dual knock sensors. this would explain why i always pop my rear pistons from det. and not the front. i may do this aswwell.

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                  • grandprixgtp_91
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 758

                    #10
                    the only problem ive had with using the 96/97 sensors , is you need new connectors and the 91 connectors have resistors in them and the 96/97 ones dont so the ecm sets the knock retartd to max, so with an early style ecm you would need the early stlye knock sensor and connector.

                    Jake
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