Rear Spark Plugs on 3.4L

[ryan.hess]

Are you talking to me?

[pocket-rocket]

Probably. All I know is I am not as stupid as you think I am, jackass. And BTW, it's not that I "didn't let it go" as you say. This is the first time besides that thread I have said anything about it. As for the 2 minutes, I would like to see that. Want a Bozo Button for it? If you knew the solution all along, why bother wasting the time to post a question and wasting everyones time on the board? When you have accomplished something more then fixing a stalling problem or changing your spark plugs, you can come back and see me.

[Juglenaut]

No crack today??

[Juglenaut]

I really am sorry I didn't dink around to take pictures of my last rebuild, shhhet that was 2 years ago, on my Z. I had 8 months free time
I have yet to rebuild my GP myself. I am also more busy now.

I promise you I will post a few picture to satify your pity doubt on my next project.

[ryan.hess]

Probably. All I know is I am not as stupid as you think I am, jackass. And BTW, it's not that I "didn't let it go" as you say. This is the first time besides that thread I have said anything about it. As for the 2 minutes, I would like to see that. Want a Bozo Button for it? If you knew the solution all along, why bother wasting the time to post a question and wasting everyones time on the board? When you have accomplished something more then fixing a stalling problem or changing your spark plugs, you can come back and see me.

I never called you stupid, and if I implied it, I am sorry. I didn't know the solution - that why I asked. I like to analyze things, test and replace the cheap parts, and move on to the expensive ones. That's how I do things, and I'm not about to change. Now you're personally attacking me. And btw - I'm not as stupid as YOU think I am. I bet I have pulled more engines than you have ever seen... in fact, I'm working on a Caddy Northstar swap into a fiero as we speak. I'm done. If you want to flame me some more, PM me.

[Anonymous]

Why has this not been locked???

We all know how to get the plugs. It has beend discussed for the better part of 2 pages. WTF??? Cut the piece if you want, or don't. You can cut it, or unmount the top mount and rock it, or just try your luck. There really is no other way. So let's stop arguing. My god. 2 pages on 3 plugs that aren't even that bad.

Have you guys ever even tried the back plugs on the 3.8SC??? It took me and Shane over 2 hours!!!

[pocket-rocket]

Why has this not been locked???

We all know how to get the plugs. It has beend discussed for the better part of 2 pages. WTF??? Cut the piece if you want, or don't. You can cut it, or unmount the top mount and rock it, or just try your luck. There really is no other way. So let's stop arguing. My god. 2 pages on 3 plugs that aren't even that bad.

Have you guys ever even tried the back plugs on the 3.8SC??? It took me and Shane over 2 hours!!!

Where is your right to butt in here? You can't even make a solid concrete claim without half of it being bullshit. I wonder about you sometimes too. Who in their right mind would ever drive around with a front header, rear exhaust manifold, and duct tape over the EGR plate? I know that duct tape is the handymans secret weapon along with the NASCAR pit crews, but come on man! On the EGR plate? Didn't you stop to think about how exhaust is hot, tape can melt, and possibly start a fire? I never put either of my cars on the road half assed, let alone unsafe like that. Not just because I don't want either of them to burn, crash, or cause an accident. But because it's just plain unsafe and stupid. Right now the 92 is off the road because of an axle. An axle isn't a big deal, is it? Well I don't want to take the chance of something happening to my investment. Kinda sounds like common sense, doesn't it? Start thinking before you do. I do have to commend you though on not being as much of a jackass as you have been in the past though. Just start using your head, and not your right foot to do the thinking. I know how it can be a rush to start the car and get it out on the road after doing something. Belive me, I couldn't wait to get the 91 back on the road after doing the 5 speed swap, or putting ported and polished heads on it, not to mention the cam timing too, but I made sure it was solid and not all jacked up before turning the key.

[pocket-rocket]

No crack today??

No, no crack today, especially since I don't do it.

I like to analyze things, test and replace the cheap parts, and move on to the expensive ones. That's how I do things.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

btw - wanna race?....... I'll have my sparkplugs out in 2 minutes flat. While you're fumbling with extensions, I'll be done already

Maybe it was my long hard 11 1/2 hours of work today, along with the other 11 1/2 hour days for the last couple months, including the two days working from 6am to 7:15pm talking, but that right there did sound kinda like a personal attack/thinking I am stupid to me.

I bet I have pulled more engines than you have ever seen... in fact, I'm working on a Caddy Northstar swap into a fiero as we speak.

Good, that shows that you know more then most on the board, including Aaron. Ok, so you are probably more mechanically inclined then I thought. You appologized, so here I go. I am sorry that I personally attacked you, and doubted your wrenching skills. The way that you made it sound in that thread made you sound kinda like a noob to me, and then when you started dismissing everyones diagnosis without actually checking what they had suggested, simply stating that the part was new kinda got to me. Reason? Because most people that know their way around an engine bay know that it is possible for brand new parts to be bad. It's not that you said this on the things that I thought, it's that you did this for pretty most everyones thoughts.

[ryan.hess]

but that right there did sound kinda like a personal attack/thinking I am stupid to me.

Nothing personal... just that I don't do something that I don't personallybelieve in... That includes notching the sheet metal under the weather stripping. It's not like I was notching the frame or anything At any rate, I still do believe that's the best way to do it. I wouldn't do it if the car weren't mine, but it saves lots of time. I suppose you can think of it like cutting a hole in your trunk to access the fuel pump (although maybe not as severe as that)... If you know you're going to have to replace the pump every 20,000 miles, wouldn't you make it easier on yourself next time? Anywho...

Good, that shows that you know more then most on the board

Naw, I just learn quick... like to wear gloves when working around headers

simply stating that the part was new kinda got to me. Reason? Because most people that know their way around an engine bay know that it is possible for brand new parts to be bad.

True... although I can't say I've ever heard of a new TPS being bad... or fuel filter... or whatever else I replaced. Guess I'll have to reread the thread You've got my respect,

[Anonymous]

I had a rear header on as well pocket rocket.

And the only reason I started it was to see if it ran and to analyze what else i needed to do to it. And I used the duct tape becuz i couldn't find any metal lying around, So I had to go get some. And my parents had our other cars, so I had now ay to get it.

Anyways, it is fixed now and working.



Sorry for saying that, it was another one of those days where I'd be passed out drunk if I was 21....

[pocket-rocket]

Well today, I am more calmed down then the other day (12.63 hours wears ya out). I am sorry for blowing up on both of you. Aaron, isn't your EGR turned off? If it is, technically, I think you could have gotten away with just bolting it back down, and since it won't open, it would act as a plug to keep you from having a huge vacuum leak. Now that I think about it, what I said was completely wrong. I totally forgot about not having an EGR tube (duh, I don't have headers, yet ). I was thinking about the heat coming up the tube, catching the tape on fire, and now that I have my head on straight today, I see all you wanted to do is keep from having a huge vacuum leak. I won a cutting torch/welding kit off of ebay, so hopefully soon I will have a set of headers started so Ben and I can join the club

Ryan, I do agree about not liking to notch out the metal under the weather strip either. I don't know why, I just don't. Also I rethough about what you posted. If I had a missing I couldn't figure out, and posted about it (not exactly likely that situation would arise, lol) and someone suggested plugs and wires, I would have to dismiss it, due to the fact of having 8.5mm Magnecor wires and new Rapidfire plugs, so I guess we kinda think alike. Anyways,

[Juglenaut]

Nothing personal... just that I don't do something that I don't personallybelieve in... That includes notching the sheet metal under the weather stripping. It's not like I was notching the frame or anything At any rate, I still do believe that's the best way to do it. I wouldn't do it if the car weren't mine, but it saves lots of time. I suppose you can think of it like cutting a hole in your trunk to access the fuel pump (although maybe not as severe as that)... If you know you're going to have to replace the pump every 20,000 miles, wouldn't you make it easier on yourself next time? Anywho...

In the time it would take to notch the lip on the firewall, the plugs would have already been removed...

Again this tip will only help if you change plugs every 3-5k miles.

[pocket-rocket]

In the time it would take to notch the lip on the firewall, the plugs would have already been removed...

Again this tip will only help if you change plugs every 3-5k miles.

So if you use Bosch +4's, this would help greatly, lol!

[Anonymous]

Pocket Rocket, from experience I am going to PM you with a few ideas that will help you tremendously.

No I had BEn turn it back on a while ago, so now I get a SES light periodically. And since ti was on, it would open and close it too. With no duct tape, the car idled at 2400. And with open headers, not even Y'ed, this is FUCKING LOUD.

[blk92z34getrag]

Pocket Rocket, from experience I am going to PM you with a few ideas that will help you tremendously.

No I had BEn turn it back on a while ago, so now I get a SES light periodically. And since ti was on, it would open and close it too. With no duct tape, the car idled at 2400. And with open headers, not even Y'ed, this is FUCKING LOUD.

I wanna hear a sound clip!