wtf?

[SappySE107]

O.K. "slappy"

Heres your answer...

The "v" vin crank is from a 90 eurosport 3.1 turbo.

You can use the same pickup/refrence/spark timer... ect as the rest of the engines.

You take up the slop between the blocks in the thrust bearing.

Heres the part # 10110549
Call the dealer and ask them .
It listed for $800.00 dollars, but now is discontinued.
I rob them from the scrap yard.

If you weren't bieng so rude I may have answered you earlier....

/thread again

[zofo61]

I tought this site had entusiasts on it,

Nothing but enthusiasts that know the facts about this particular powerplant. You have been called out on some of the most basic facts and still you try to push your obvious ignorance as fact. I apologise for the comment about your wife, that was in retaliation to your disrespect for Dale Earnhardt and NASCAR in general. Some things I just cant allow to go unanswered. If you were wise you would stop the BS and actually read and listen and ask intellegant questions. Then you could not only have a bit of a show car, but you could actually have a respectable running machine. You would have to start by apologizing to Ben, or "slappy" as you referred to him. You started the last thread aimed at his store and the fact that he has been quiet is a testiment to his aparent new found patience. He is a co - owner of this fine forum and I think you should give him the respect that he deserves.

There is a wealth of information on this site and it would be to your benefit to absorb as much as you can. It is obviouse that you are full of misinformation, where you obtained it from it not my problem, my problem is you trying to pass it on as fact with a group of people who have forgotten more about this powerplant than most will ever know.

Lets begin a new day and keep in mind that if you try and pass BS on as fact .....you will be called out.

And at the end of the day you may actually learn something and say Thank-you and if your are really agood learner........................................... ...............................................

We might throw in a Banana for your Monkey.

[Superdave]

that's a cast iron crank, same "981" casting as the stock 3400 crank.


*edit.. Dammit Grasshopper..

[jp_grasshopper_007]

wtf are you talking about? You said it was a steel Vin Z crank before, and now you say its a Vin V? Which is it!? Eurosport turbo? How much research did you do again? The only turbo was 89 and 90 grand prix. Its still a 981 cast crank though so who cares.

I didn't see "slappy" being rude but I guess you just figured everyone is the same around here. You are a ricer, a liar, and a thief, and that is what you do for a living.

[powerdoctor]

O.K. "slappy"

Heres your answer...

The "v" vin crank is from a 90 eurosport 3.1 turbo.

You can use the same pickup/refrence/spark timer... ect as the rest of the engines.

You take up the slop between the blocks in the thrust bearing.

Heres the part # 10110549
Call the dealer and ask them .
It listed for $800.00 dollars, but now is discontinued.
I rob them from the scrap yard.

If you weren't bieng so rude I may have answered you earlier....

[Canyonero]

The engine has about 10/1 compression at the least and I am looking at the turbos more like a supercharger, just for top end.

I didn't realize that superchargers were just for the top end.

[SappySE107]

You do this for a living for real people... You don't know the piston specs. You said the stock pistons stuck out 1/8", so we can establish .125 = .020 and 3/8 = .060. Factor error in conversion and you don't know what you are talking about, and I would guess it was bored .060 over and actually had ~.030 clearance.

You said it has the steel crank...but that doesn't bolt right in so you surely know what you did to that correct? I mean, you lied about your block to try to impress, so why should I believe anything else about your engine?

[RedZMonte]

how much boost/NO2 are you running?

S

[powerdoctor]

I didn't think you were trying to be rude about the "box"

I wanter 2 coolers for "show" reasons, one cooler may be better, but even with 1 cooler, or 2 , the boost from both spools will eventaully come together at the intake or in the 1 cooler, and have the oppotunity to backfeed each other any ways.

The engine has about 10/1 compression at the least and I am looking at the turbos more like a supercharger, just for top end.

When thay finally spool, it will most likely be an obnoxiuos surge of power like an old porsche turbo, but oh well.

Then I'll Hit the N.O.S. and BOOM!! LMAO!

Its a toy anyways, who knows what the future will bring as far as redesign or mods.

Thanx for your reply.

[sprucegagt]

The "special program" is one being worked on by a friend in the "x" garage...I can say no more about it.
But these are just a few that I was considering, I am still considering all options.

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?pid=24300

http://www.hptuners.com/index.php

http://www.drewtech.com/about/contact.html

Got any suggestions?

No, I was just wondering about the "special program."

[RedZMonte]

The "box" is internally split by a divider, it was sturdier and provided a better mount than twin flanges.

I can understand the wanting a solid structur to mount the turbos to, they are heavy and need to be mounted nice and solid. Im not trying to be an ass when i made the suggestion. Im just saying you will have ALOT of lag and lose efficentcy. turbos work off exhaust flow and velocity, when you have it dump into a "Box" divided or not then into the turbo you lose velocity. it will not build pressure quick enought to be efficient. I would HIGHLY suggest running the exhaust pipes to a flange going directly into the turbo. I do think that will make a SIGNIFICANT difference in spool time and overall power.


As for the Dual intercooler setup... I dunno... I would seriously consider running i good cooler. Alot of factory "Dual intercooled" cars convert to 1 good cooler (300zx, 3000gt, ect) that eliminates a good chunk of piping which helps throttle responce and frees up a good chunk of room in the engine bay.. In a fiero you would have to run the charge pipe to and from the cooler over the engine anyhow which is going to heat up the charges any way. And keeping other vent open will also allow heat to excape from under the hood keeping the underhood temps lower.

Im not the smartest guy around but i know a little bit about what im talking about.... atleast i like to think so...

If your running a OBDII computer then i would use HPTuner. Don't bother with anything else. Thats what all the big boys use!

S

[powerdoctor]

The "special program" is one being worked on by a friend in the "x" garage...I can say no more about it.
But these are just a few that I was considering, I am still considering all options.

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?pid=24300

http://www.hptuners.com/index.php

http://www.drewtech.com/about/contact.html

Got any suggestions?

[powerdoctor]

Sorry about the "out of hand"

I was not the one who did that to the thread.

I actually want to have normal discussions.....

[powerdoctor]

Heres a pic of the book.
Its an interesting read.

[powerdoctor]

We already covered the fact it was not a 3900.

Piston to bore clearance is one thing, this "clearance" is totaly different, like 3/16's of an inch different.

What's so unbalanced about the turbo system?
I may have 300 cubic inches differnce between the sides due to the pipe it took to get around the tranz, but I made up the difference in the "box" and the length of the other header.

A pushrod engine with my "crappy" heads is still capable of way more power than that.
Ever read the book "chevy 60 degree v6 performance" by tom curo?

They have N/A iron head engines making 300 hp in it.

You guys need to stop jocking the GM specs for a minute and open your minds a little.

I have seen ford 302's make almost 600 hp N/A and those motors suck!

The smallest displacement of these engines is what? 173 cubic inches?

If you only make 1 hp per cubic inch thats 173 right there.
If you make 2 per Ci thats 346 hp.

Are you trying to tell me that this engine is so inefficient that it can only make 1 hp per cubic inch?

come on man.