interesting L67 kill story(TGP) from w-body

[robertisaar]

The gen1 supercharged 3.8's blew ass. Same HP as a small port 3100 LOL!!!

this isn't glubgp, so i'm going to have to correct this error

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_3800_engine#L67_Supercharged

205-225 depending on the year

but this was a 97-98, meaning a S2SC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_3800_engine#L67_Supercharged_2

240HP/280TQ...

[IsaacHayes]

The gen1 supercharged 3.8's blew ass. Same HP as a small port 3100 LOL!!!

[3400-95-Modified]

Ok, that works, because I was gonna say if he has some magical way of fixing the shitty 60 and 60e ratios I want IN! lol

[robertisaar]

2nd gen GTPs(97-up) got them, before that they were LQ1s...

and "unfortunate gear ratios" is another way of saying "out of powerband"...

[no_doz]

i was just reading about the supercharged 3.8s being around in the early 90s, so why does my GTP (and it is a GTP) have an LQ1 in it?

[3400-95-Modified]

I question this one statement of his thread

Suddenly, the unfortunate gear ratios

Unless he's running 3.73's the 60 and 65e's have the same 1st 2nd and 3rd ratios.

[robertisaar]

no, its not a cut down 8, as far as i know.

its been said that it was a clean sheet design, but why they would make a 90*V6 is beyond me...

[no_doz]

yea its the same thing on the j-body, i called the l67 a boat anchor on their and lots of people got pissed off trying to tell me how great the 3.8 is and how shitty 660's are LOL.

is it true that the l67 is a cut down 305 like the 4.3 is a cut down 350? if so that is HORRIBLE!

[robertisaar]

that just made my whole day a giant ray of fucking sunshine, i guess when you whoop ass people that want to whine that it was all turbo just want something to bitch about.

thanks for posting that-i hope everyone takes the time to read that book-cuz its definitely worth it.

also the 24v comparison was for both engines (all 24 valves combined).

definitely a good read, and X2 on the 24valve explanation.

w-body be hating on the 660s when they whoop ass on the l67. thats how its been for a while, and probably won't change anytime soon.

[no_doz]

that just made my whole day a giant ray of fucking sunshine, i guess when you whoop ass people that want to whine that it was all turbo just want something to bitch about.

thanks for posting that-i hope everyone takes the time to read that book-cuz its definitely worth it.

also the 24v comparison was for both engines (all 24 valves combined).

[sanjay]

24V 3.1?? Or did I not read the story right??

[SappySE107]

W-body went downhill after 2002-2003. I was there from damn near the beginning on the email list and early boards. It will never be the same.

[robertisaar]

i'm still waiting for the day when w-body isn't dominated by the phrase "l67 swap"....

its much better now compared to the last two years, but its still rather rampant...

[pocket-rocket]

Lol, that's great. I had to send that link to my friend who enjoyed it as much as I did, and he isn't even a car guy (yet he knows I despise the L67).

[robertisaar]

http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=80702.0

VERY well written, like the post 95sleeperacheiva made...