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  • Canyonero
    Plays with Volvos now.
    • Sep 2006
    • 1112

    #1

    Gen-I/Gen-II Same Block?

    Quick question - I have a Gen-I 2.8L long block that I have been using for mocking up my motor swap, but I'm actually going to use a Gen-II 3.1L from a Z24. Granted I haven't done all that much yet, but I've been going on the assumption that the blocks are externally interchangeable. Is that correct? I have not pulled the 3.1L yet as I like to have the donor car drivable until I'm actually ready to use the engine.

    Need to fab motor and trans mounts soon.
    '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
    '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
    '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
    '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits
  • Superdave
    Been there, Built that.
    • Sep 2004
    • 5850

    #2
    No, the motor mount pads are different.
    Past Builds;
    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
    Current Project;
    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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    • Canyonero
      Plays with Volvos now.
      • Sep 2006
      • 1112

      #3
      Nooooooo! How different...
      '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
      '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
      '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
      '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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      • Guest

        #4
        Very different on the driver side (longitudinal reference) and quite different on the passenger side.

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        • caffeine
          • Jan 2012
          • 1489

          #5
          My friend has made RWD mounts for a Gen II and they weren't too bad but definitely different compared to a Gen I.
          '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
          '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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          • Canyonero
            Plays with Volvos now.
            • Sep 2006
            • 1112

            #6
            Could I make a motor plate that would fit a Gen-I FWD and RWD, and Gen-II? This is for a LeMons car, so if I need to get a replacement engine in a pinch, it would be nice to have my options open. I know 2/3 bolts line up between Gen-I FWD and RWD. Wondering if I can just pre-drill, slot or oval the holes to fit Gen-II as well.

            I think I'm best off sticking with Gen-I/II to keep the RWD steel oil pan for clearance issues. I can't box my subframe because of the transverse leaf fron suspension.
            '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
            '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
            '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
            '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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            • geoffinbc
              Iron Head Enthusiast
              • Oct 2003
              • 5831

              #7
              He has a Trooper so his actually uses a FWD block like a Lumina APV van. Gen I and II mounts are the same in this respect.
              Attached Files
              1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
              1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
              Because... I am, CANADIAN

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              • Canyonero
                Plays with Volvos now.
                • Sep 2006
                • 1112

                #8
                Originally posted by geoffinbc View Post
                He has a Trooper so his actually uses a FWD block like a Lumina APV van. Gen I and II mounts are the same in this respect.
                Yes, that was exactly my assumption. My Gen-I long-block is from a Trooper, and I was pretty certain they used normal FWD blocks. I have a 3.4L Gen-I RWD in my Trooper now so I know the differences between those two.
                '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
                '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
                '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
                '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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