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  • kill_them_all
    • Jul 2004
    • 96

    #1

    blown head gasket

    I have a 96 skylark, I was cruising along the other day and I heard a big pop. I pulled the oil cap and pvc and there is coolant everywhere. When I crank it, it seems to have little to no compression. It has 208k on it. Sound about right?
  • IsaacHayes
    Mr. Orange.
    • Apr 2006
    • 6030

    #2
    Probably so. Or something more serious. Won't know until you tear it down anyways, so get started!!

    If I were you, once you do find out it was the gasket, I'd get the 04 graphite head gaskets for a 3100, get some 3400 heads, and lower intake, and 2000+ upper or 3500 uppper, and the 2000+ style EGR. It will work with your computer as it's the linear style just mounts differently, and I'm pretty sure the connectors are the same as the 96-99 style.

    Good oppourtunity to give your motor a 10-15 or so HP boost.
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    • tractorman
      • Dec 2005
      • 451

      #3
      If this engine has 208K miles on it, the last thing he wants to do is start messin' with 3400 heads, etc. I'd start with a compression test- from what you're describing, it shouldn't be to hard to comfirm a blown head gasket that way. Then just do what you have to to fix the old junker.

      If this guy is looking for more performance, he'd be time and money ahead putting a fresh 3400 in rather than messing around with a cobbled-up "hybrid" with 200K+ miles on it.

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      • RednBlack
        Wood Hippie
        • Mar 2004
        • 2795

        #4
        2 questions...Did the engine die when it "popped"? And will it start at all?
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        • IsaacHayes
          Mr. Orange.
          • Apr 2006
          • 6030

          #5
          True about the whole 3400 swap. I dont have access to do a whole motor swap or I would.
          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
          Original L82 Longblock
          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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          • vikn1
            Cashed @ an early age!
            • Jun 2006
            • 8

            #6
            If you rebuild the engine the trans is next, because the clutches won't be used to that much stress. Might as well look for, let's say, a "1996 Chevy Beretta Z26" with the 3100. You get a 4T60E (oh ya!!!), a swappable 3100 to 3400 (future project). The car is ligher than a W body, stiffer than a N body, and you can upgrade the brakes (they use the same system as the J body, the aftermarker makes a drum to disk conversion). 1996 is the only model year that I know you can get all those goodies....
            mexican food gives me the sh#t's...

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            • IsaacHayes
              Mr. Orange.
              • Apr 2006
              • 6030

              #7
              Uhm, 94 and 95 have 3100 too. And the 4T60-e isn't anything to get excited about. The gearing in it sucks in the L body. Not fast reving at all. You can however get a dhp powertuner since it would be 96..
              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
              Original L82 Longblock
              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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              • vikn1
                Cashed @ an early age!
                • Jun 2006
                • 8

                #8
                "the 4T60-e isn't anything to get excited about." I feel ya about the trans, it was plain sarcasm though. It is a strong tranny or GM would have scrapped it a long time ago.
                mexican food gives me the sh#t's...

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                • kill_them_all
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 96

                  #9
                  Yea, I need to do a compression test on it. The car died when it happened and it will not start.

                  I just rebuilt a 3100 and 4t60e for a 97 grand am I have. My grand am trans had 189k miles on it and I used a banner kit in it because the clutches were mint, I could still read the factory writing on all of them. I threw some goodies in it aswell, trans go shift kit, sonnax anti stick upshift valves and down shift valve.

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                  • Bowtie70SS
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Coolant in the oil? A big pop and no compression could be a broke n timing chain. You could pull a valve cover to make sure the rockers are moving.


                    Dave

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                    • ForcedFirebird
                      Live life 3.7mi at a time
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4555

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bowtie70SS View Post
                      Coolant in the oil? A big pop and no compression could be a broke n timing chain. You could pull a valve cover to make sure the rockers are moving.


                      Dave
                      Do you think this car has been repaired yet? This thread is more than 6mos. old!
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                      • Bowtie70SS
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 13

                        #12
                        You got me there...he never did say what the problem and solution were though. I'm glad you were around to point out my ignorance

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                        • ForcedFirebird
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4555

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bowtie70SS View Post
                          You got me there...he never did say what the problem and solution were though. I'm glad you were around to point out my ignorance
                          It is kind of annoying when the thread is never closed. Many times have I come across a problem that was never resolved, and when using a search to get help sometimes brings these unfinished threads back up.
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                          • bszopi
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                            • Apr 2000
                            • 9179

                            #14
                            Problem is, we never know when a thread should be closed or not. It is quite possible that if the car is not a daily driver, then the person may not be in a hurry to fix it. So I'd hate to close a thread and come to find out 2-3 months later that the person is working on it again, but his thread is closed. So its just easier to NOT close thread (since >75% of people don't use the search anyway), than to close a thread and the person come back to find a closed thread and have to start all over.
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                            • ForcedFirebird
                              Live life 3.7mi at a time
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4555

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bszopi View Post
                              Problem is, we never know when a thread should be closed or not. It is quite possible that if the car is not a daily driver, then the person may not be in a hurry to fix it. So I'd hate to close a thread and come to find out 2-3 months later that the person is working on it again, but his thread is closed. So its just easier to NOT close thread (since >75% of people don't use the search anyway), than to close a thread and the person come back to find a closed thread and have to start all over.
                              Sorry for the confusion, I meant "closed" as when a solution is reached - not that nobody can post anymore.
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