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  • 95grandprix3100
    Not Running!
    • Oct 2009
    • 12

    #1

    Feels a little Weak in low RPM's

    Hey Guys, I know all you guys out there are geniuses when it comes to this so I was hoping to pick a few brains on this...
    I just did a full headgasket on my 95 3100 Grand Prix and the car runs and drives great for the most part except I cant shake the feeling that it was a little quicker in the low RPMs than it is now. In drive I can slam on the gas and it will start off at a slower pace and then doesn't start to really grab until around 4000 rpm and then at 4500 rpm launches like a screaming fighter jet. To be honest performance is still great but I really can't shake the feeling that in the low RPMs my engine had a bit more bite...
    Any ideas either on what that might be or how to improve it for cheap?
  • pocket-rocket
    Because stock sucks...
    • Oct 2003
    • 6252

    #2
    WOT intake manifolds, change to OBD1 and tune it, K&N are what I think of really fast. Less restrictive exhaust (IIRC, stock 3100 down pipe is like 1.5" ID)- have a custom downpipe made and have a high flow cat put in, then maybe cat back to 2" down the road, but that's more expensive that the simple bolt-ons I mentioned.
    -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
    91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
    92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
    94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
    Originally posted by Jay Leno
    Tires are cheap clutches...

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    • [ChaosweaveR]
      4x4 status FTW!
      • Dec 2009
      • 136

      #3
      Originally posted by pocket-rocket View Post
      WOT intake manifolds, change to OBD1 and tune it, K&N are what I think of really fast. Less restrictive exhaust (IIRC, stock 3100 down pipe is like 1.5" ID)- have a custom downpipe made and have a high flow cat put in, then maybe cat back to 2" down the road, but that's more expensive that the simple bolt-ons I mentioned.
      That would help out a bunch.

      But if you're gonna do exhaust, I'd bump it up to 2.25" pipping, and add a glasspack as a resonator. While I know the Flowmaster 80 series muffler just sounds like secks with the any 60* motor, it's a crossflow muffler, and I don't think they're space underneath the rear for it. You could go with Flowmaster 40's, but I'd highly recommend a glasspack then to keep the rasp down bigtime. I get absolutely 0 rasp with my setup.

      If you do a highflow cat, use Mangaflow, they make a nice difference, and it's the less likey model to set off any light with the 02 sensor after it (too much flow)
      -Chris-
      03 Black GAGT Sedan
      MODS:
      MP Racing CAI / Magnaflow High Flow Catalytic Converter / Flowmaster 80 series w/glasspack resonator
      Front STB / MSD Ignition: 8.5mm wires & blaster coils / SOME BIG GODDAMNED MUDFLAPS

      And some other stuff to make it look pretty. :D

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      • robertisaar
        W-Body for Life!
        • May 2007
        • 6414

        #4
        sounds like the cam got retarded..... which is essentially what happens with a stretched timing chain. how old is that?
        1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
        Latest nAst1 files here!
        Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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        • pocket-rocket
          Because stock sucks...
          • Oct 2003
          • 6252

          #5
          Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
          sounds like the cam got retarded.....

          Wow man... No need to make fun of it because it is a little slow, meanie!
          -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
          91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
          92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
          94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
          Originally posted by Jay Leno
          Tires are cheap clutches...

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          • [ChaosweaveR]
            4x4 status FTW!
            • Dec 2009
            • 136

            #6
            Originally posted by pocket-rocket View Post
            Wow man... No need to make fun of it because it is a little slow, meanie!
            It may not want to reach redline ever again...
            -Chris-
            03 Black GAGT Sedan
            MODS:
            MP Racing CAI / Magnaflow High Flow Catalytic Converter / Flowmaster 80 series w/glasspack resonator
            Front STB / MSD Ignition: 8.5mm wires & blaster coils / SOME BIG GODDAMNED MUDFLAPS

            And some other stuff to make it look pretty. :D

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            • Azrael
              Accelerating uphill in OD
              • Apr 2005
              • 763

              #7
              It sounds like the power drop is sudden. Power loss from chain stretch happens too slowly to notice over time unless it skipped a tooth. I'd say check fuel pressure and give the regulator a look first.
              1995 Grand Am SE

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              • 95grandprix3100
                Not Running!
                • Oct 2009
                • 12

                #8
                So the weakness has gotten a lot worse and I realized that it's starting to stutter when accelerating a bit too. My expectation is it's just the spark plug wires as I knew they were going when I bought the car. It could be the coil pack too, I can rev it up and sometimes it fires right and other times I can feel it miss. Just bought a bosch premium wireset for cheaper than the duralast ones at autozone off amazon. Sparkplugs are all AC Delco stock replacements that are pretty much brand new and I gapped em just right so it shouldn't be those. I'm pretty sure that its just the wires but won't know for a few days when the wires ship in.

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