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  • kwhauck
    Olds Sleeper
    • Aug 2006
    • 379

    #16
    question is how much will the stock bottom end hold? 15psi? 20psi? 25psi? 400whp? that's what i want to know and might have to find out the hard way.....

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    • farmerz24
      • Feb 2004
      • 361

      #17
      well on my next dyno session with the 3500 i hope to see at least 450-500 wheel.!

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      • montess408
        • May 2006
        • 391

        #18
        hey farmerz24 is that 3500 n/a or does it got boost ? anywayz 450-500 is very impresive
        01 olds shilluette 3400/4T65-E stock for now

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        • TurboZ24
          • Dec 2003
          • 299

          #19
          The most I actually dynoed was 430 to the wheels at 16 psi. I did run it as high as 19 psi (probably around 480 wheel HP) with no problems.

          The problem is always going to be traction and drivetrain, though. I busted a couple of trannies, several stock axles, several Driveshaft Shop Axles, so.
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          • fivepointhustla
            I prefer fast & reliable
            • May 2004
            • 181

            #20
            Is your bottom end stock z24?
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            • Superdave
              Been there, Built that.
              • Sep 2004
              • 5850

              #21
              Originally posted by rickykline View Post
              i might just drop in a 3500 and throw in the forged crank if it doesnt have one in it.. then 327 rods with a nice set of 8.5:1 wisecos... anyone have the specs of the 3500 crank? and rods?
              327 rods won't work on a 3500 crank, the rod journals are different sized.

              with a 3500 crank you're stuck with the 5.7" rods for the 4.3 V6 then custom pistons will be needed...
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              • sil
                4T60-E killa
                • Nov 2004
                • 723

                #22
                Originally posted by farmerz24 View Post
                well on my next dyno session with the 3500 i hope to see at least 450-500 wheel.!
                thats insane lol
                your going to have to take me for a spin in that beast this summer lol
                where do you take her for the dyno and how much is it?

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                • TurboZ24
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 299

                  #23
                  Is your bottom end stock z24?

                  The only "Stock" part is the block and crank. Crower forged rods, Ross racing forged pistons.
                  Curtis
                  91\' Turbo Z24
                  http://www.turboz24.com

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                  • kwhauck
                    Olds Sleeper
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 379

                    #24
                    turboz24 - i don't get it 430whp and only a 12.3 1/4? what gives......

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                    • 3400-95-Modified
                      The Pink Car
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 4375

                      #25
                      I think thats called traction issues...

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                      • kwhauck
                        Olds Sleeper
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 379

                        #26
                        Yes i know that, but IMO I would think that you turn the boost up as you do mods to gain traction......

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                        • gectek
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 1472

                          #27
                          full boogie FTW!!! who cares about traction...just get some M/T crinkle walls

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                          • TurboZ24
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 299

                            #28
                            Actually, the 12.31 run was only on 10 psi. I did attempt to run 16 psi for the track, but on launch, sheared the driver's side Driveshaft shop inner CV, so never got a run in.
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                            • kwhauck
                              Olds Sleeper
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 379

                              #29
                              oh damn, well at least i know the bottom end won't be the weak point then...

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                              • IsaacHayes
                                Mr. Orange.
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 6030

                                #30
                                yeah guys I wouldn't worry about the bottom end much. Midnight is running all stock and is breaking axles.. I'd worry about transmission. I mean there is only so far you can take these cars before trans is the limiting factor...
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