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  • 3400-95-Modified
    The Pink Car
    • Dec 2005
    • 4375

    #16
    I just lined up the holes when I did mine...

    This is how much came off of mine. Worth the time with the amount of material that I removed...



    And this is how much I took off the 3100 upper to match the 3500 gaskets.


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    • IsaacHayes
      Mr. Orange.
      • Apr 2006
      • 6030

      #17
      I noticed my heads (94 stock) are pretty close to the gasket. Only two are a tiny bit off, otherwise they are dead on.
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      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
      Original L82 Longblock
      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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      • ForcedFirebird
        Live life 3.7mi at a time
        • Jan 2007
        • 4555

        #18
        Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
        I noticed my heads (94 stock) are pretty close to the gasket. Only two are a tiny bit off, otherwise they are dead on.
        Mine only lined up on two sides (2004 3500 heads and GM stock replacement gaskets)...



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        • IsaacHayes
          Mr. Orange.
          • Apr 2006
          • 6030

          #19
          Yeah those look like Jon's. Mine are better than that. Two of them have a corner that peaks out, but the sides/tops are all really close if not bigger than the gasket. Regardless your heads are better! lol
          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
          Original L82 Longblock
          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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          • 93GAGT3300
            • Jan 2007
            • 35

            #20
            3400-95,

            thanks for the pics of the 3500 intake. i notice that the ports are a little different that the big port 3100's . i wonder what was the reason for that change. good gasket match job though.

            one thing i have noticed. if i had the time. i would have disassembled the heads and blended the bowls underneath the valve seat, especially on the exhaust side.

            from the exhaust bowl straight through to the mufflers, i think gm used every possible way to restrict this motor from breathing.

            the exhaust ports are ok, but they could be better at least gasket matched.

            then for those who can't spened the moolah right now for the headers. the exhaust manifold, on the inside. they're a joke. everything is going to get opened up and smoothed out the best i can. the worst part is the rear manifold where it emptys into the down pipe. look inside that opening. can you say restriction? then the mouth of the down pipe is pitiful.

            i'm going to fix as mouch i can humanly possible before i throw this engine back into the engine compartment.

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            • IsaacHayes
              Mr. Orange.
              • Apr 2006
              • 6030

              #21
              2005 3400 impala manifolds are way hogged out like the 3500 port size. Get those and save your porting bits...
              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
              Original L82 Longblock
              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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              • 93GAGT3300
                • Jan 2007
                • 35

                #22
                are you saying that the impala manifolds are BIGGER than the 2000 malibu ports?

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                • 3400-95-Modified
                  The Pink Car
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 4375

                  #23
                  Yes

                  My 05 Impala 3400 I bought with 4k on it


                  Impala exhaust manifold gasket comparison to a 01 3400 gasket.


                  And how well it fits to the manifold... so that shows you how much bigger it is.


                  Oh and my head side porting job....



                  Got Lope?
                  3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                  Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                  Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                  12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                  • IsaacHayes
                    Mr. Orange.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 6030

                    #24
                    Wow, look at the gasket. They routed the edge seam around the coolant jacket ports instead of making it a straight line down. They did this so if the coolant jacket leaks, it forces the coolant to leak out the motor instead of inside. Haha interesting. I guess it makes room for the metal anti-crush tabs too. I'd still rather go metal felpro so the plastic can't break/warp and move the rubber in the first place. Too bad no metal 3500 felpro gasket is out yet.
                    sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                    Original L82 Longblock
                    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                    • 3400-95-Modified
                      The Pink Car
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 4375

                      #25
                      I have GM 3500 gaskets in mine the ones pictured... so far so good... Then again motor only has like 4k on it.

                      Got Lope?
                      3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                      Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                      Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                      12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                      • ForcedFirebird
                        Live life 3.7mi at a time
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4555

                        #26
                        Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                        Yes

                        My 05 Impala 3400 I bought with 4k on it


                        Impala exhaust manifold gasket comparison to a 01 3400 gasket.


                        And how well it fits to the manifold... so that shows you how much bigger it is.


                        Oh and my head side porting job....


                        I now can see what my heads are goimg to look like in the near future!!!
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                        • 93GAGT3300
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 35

                          #27
                          DAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNN!!!!!!

                          the 3500 intake and exhaust ports made the 3100 big ports look like the 3100 small ports.......

                          has anyone fitted 3500 heads to a 3100 set up? can it even been done. now i feel i should have gone THAT route. one other question, would my injectors from my 96 set up even keep up with the demand of fuel with a 3500 set up?

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                          • bszopi
                            Site Coder
                            • Apr 2000
                            • 9185

                            #28
                            No, 3500 heads will not work on a 3100 engine. They will bolt up and all, but the combustion chambers go past the cylinder bore and onto the deck surface (which is not a good idea).
                            -Brad-
                            89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                            • 93GAGT3300
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 35

                              #29
                              oh well, so much for that idea. will 3400 heads fir on the 3100 block without issues?

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                              • IsaacHayes
                                Mr. Orange.
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 6030

                                #30
                                Yes 3400 heads fit on a 3100 fine. (In fact 2000+ 3100's have 3400 heads on them). It's just the 3500 are too big for anything but a 3400.
                                sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                                1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                                16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                                Original L82 Longblock
                                with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                                Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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