Water/Meth injection on an N/A motor.

[silvergtjrad]

Over the weekend I was doing some research on doing an e85 conversion and stumbled across a few threads on LS1tech about meth injection on N/A motors. Ive never heard of it being done before, but after reading it makes quite a bit of sense for a high compression motor needing higher octane fuel to be run on the street.

Snow performance has a new kit out that runs off of the MAF to trigger the W/I . There are guys claiming 30whp on MOTOR. Running crazy timing on pump gas with high compression would be awesome. You could use 87 as well if you left the kit on all of the time, but that would negate the cost of gas by having to refill the methanol.

Just an idea for some of you guys, and Im thinking of trying it out as well once I finally get my motor done.

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=39

[sprucegagt]

But then you have to worry about the meth pump failing and your pistons turning into molten masses of metal.

Thinking about that kind of KR = *shutters*

[silvergtjrad]

But then you have to worry about the meth pump failing and your pistons turning into molten masses of metal.

Thinking about that kind of KR = *shutters*

Its no different than worrying about any other electrical component on your car failing. What if you are spraying nitrous and the fuel jet gets clogged or a solenoid sticks? There are plenty of cars out there running the kit with high amounts of boost that would have the same problems.

[sprucegagt]

But the difference is they don't rely on it continuously. Only during WOT conditions is nitrous used and even then, you can turn it off with no damaging effects. You can't do that with a meth. system. Go WOT and if your tank is empty or the pump fails, your engine can be damaged VERY easily.

[Monzsta]

Over the weekend I was doing some research on doing an e85 conversion and stumbled across a few threads on LS1tech about meth injection on N/A motors. Ive never heard of it being done before, but after reading it makes quite a bit of sense for a high compression motor needing higher octane fuel to be run on the street.

Snow performance has a new kit out that runs off of the MAF to trigger the W/I . There are guys claiming 30whp on MOTOR. Running crazy timing on pump gas with high compression would be awesome. You could use 87 as well if you left the kit on all of the time, but that would negate the cost of gas by having to refill the methanol.

Just an idea for some of you guys, and Im thinking of trying it out as well once I finally get my motor done.

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=39

Not a bad idea. You'd have to closely sync the timing/meth event. Maybe using a modified "happy knob" idea to trigger a value to the IAT when the methanol activates that adds a modifier to the timing. It would be easy to do.

[silvergtjrad]

Not a bad idea. You'd have to closely sync the timing/meth event. Maybe using a modified "happy knob" idea to trigger a value to the IAT when the methanol activates that adds a modifier to the timing. It would be easy to do.

With the kit in the link I posted, its activated by the MAF, and is programmable to spray at a given value. You can have it engage in WOT conditions and be able to bump the timing quite a bit.

[1988GTU]

Do you really feel you'll be making that much power output with that high of compression? Personally I think it'll be a waste. People with forced induction use it because they can double, triple there displacement with boost and create that much of a need for meth/alky/water injection.

[silvergtjrad]

I think that it will make enough power to be worthwhile for the money involved. Not taking risks or trying new things doesnt get you anywhere fast.

[1988GTU]

Sometimes thinking rationally will save you a future disappointment.

[Younggun88]

Meth injection can be used so it only turns on when it is needed. It can be programmed either by MAF or MAP. on a N/A i would not use it as it does not help as much as it could if you boost.

[91parkave]

I made my own ghetto kit, Not much of power increase on a n/a motor but the cleaning effects and benefits were the main reason i use it, It also makes your A/f mixture go richer, but besides that i'd do it to keep my topend clean

[G-U-NOT]

I made my own kit too!
Its very easy and inexpensive!!
All I did was take my windshield washer tank and make it so that it sprays into my intake when I hold my sprayer down!
I use the top brand washer fluid/de-icer since its already made with Meth/Alcohol.... it works great!
My car isnt boosted right now but I can tell a big difference with N/A!
Im sure performance will be even greated once Im running boost!!