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  • ghrarhg
    • May 2005
    • 215

    #1

    Hybrid Help LIM (sending unit in the way)?

    Trying to put the 3400 LIM on, and I'm hitting what looks like an oil pressure sending unit. Here's a pic of my block.



    None of the hybrid threads or guides mention this. Is this another pressure sending unit? If so, what does it send to?
  • bszopi
    Site Coder
    • Apr 2000
    • 9189

    #2
    I don't ever remember a sensor being mounted in that location on any of these engines I've ever worked with...
    -Brad-
    89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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    • ghrarhg
      • May 2005
      • 215

      #3
      Originally posted by bszopi View Post
      I don't ever remember a sensor being mounted in that location on any of these engines I've ever worked with...
      That would be my luck on this swap.

      From the pictures I've looked through, I've only seen it on another 88 2.8 GP. Is is possible they used 2 oil pressure sensors, 1 for the ECM and 1 for the cluster?

      I'm thinking I may be able to 45 it or 90 it out of the way, but there's not a whole lot of room in that area.

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      • Superdave
        Been there, Built that.
        • Sep 2004
        • 5850

        #4
        pull it out and plug it.

        If you still end up needing to have it hooked up then you can either T off the one on the oil filter adapter or get creative with the wiring.
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • PCGUY112887
          • Feb 2006
          • 1067

          #5
          WTF is that? What block is this?
          SpudFiles
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          1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
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          • ghrarhg
            • May 2005
            • 215

            #6
            This is a 1988 2.8 FWD block.

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            • ghrarhg
              • May 2005
              • 215

              #7
              OK, turns out it's an oil pressure switch for the fuel pump.

              I'm not really familiar with this on other cars. Is this common?

              I tried a street 45 elbow, and it still hits the LIM. it doesn't look like there's any way I can get a fitting around it. Plugging it may be the only choice...

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              • IsaacHayes
                Mr. Orange.
                • Apr 2006
                • 6030

                #8
                Yeah plug it and be done with it. You may have to solder those wires together to get the fuel pump to run. Looks like it only lets the fuel pump run when it sees oil pressure as a safety measure. I don't think the newer cars use something like that anymore.
                sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                Original L82 Longblock
                with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                • ghrarhg
                  • May 2005
                  • 215

                  #9
                  It's actually a fail-safe for the fuel pump relay so you can get home. Basically it's a normally open switch that once 4 psi of oil pressure is reached, the switch closes. The text says that if the fuel pump relay fails, the engine has to crank a few extra seconds, 4 psi is hit, switch closes, fuel pump gets power and you can drive home.

                  Sounds like I can just plug it and be on my way, but I kinda like the redundancy idea.

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                  • Superdave
                    Been there, Built that.
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 5850

                    #10
                    that's integrated into the later sensors, 88 is an odd year but 90+ have the OPSU in the oil filter adapter. '89's are in a weird spot.

                    If your oil filter adapter does not have the spot for it then let me know, i have a couple gen2 adapters around here.
                    Past Builds;
                    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                    Current Project;
                    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                    • ghrarhg
                      • May 2005
                      • 215

                      #11
                      That's the weird part. I have another OPSU in the oil filter adapter, and that's the one that goes to the gauge/idiot light. Maybe they operate at different voltages? Both of mine are 2 wire. Aren't newer ones 3 wire?

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                      • Superdave
                        Been there, Built that.
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 5850

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ghrarhg View Post
                        That's the weird part. I have another OPSU in the oil filter adapter, and that's the one that goes to the gauge/idiot light. Maybe they operate at different voltages? Both of mine are 2 wire. Aren't newer ones 3 wire?
                        the 3 wire ones are for the fuel pump relay and a pressure gauge. thats what my 89 and 91 have.
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • IsaacHayes
                          Mr. Orange.
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 6030

                          #13
                          I wonder if it's possible to re-wire the two sensors for use with a 3 wire sensor, much like I did with my two coolant sensors (1 wire for gauges, 2 wire ECM) to use the 3 wire 96 style.... ??

                          I bet you could....
                          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                          Original L82 Longblock
                          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                          • Superdave
                            Been there, Built that.
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 5850

                            #14
                            a T fitting on the filter adapter would let you run both and not worry about wiring... lol
                            Past Builds;
                            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                            Current Project;
                            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                            • IsaacHayes
                              Mr. Orange.
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 6030

                              #15
                              Bah!!! The extra sensor is extra weight!! hahaha
                              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                              Original L82 Longblock
                              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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