fiero 2.8 manis on 3500?

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  • gar70614
    • Oct 2008
    • 330

    #1

    fiero 2.8 manis on 3500?

    i know this is prob a newb question but will 2.8 fiero manis fit a 3500 and are the primaries way to small. i searched and think they said u could slot the holes. im unsure
  • Joseph Upson

    #2
    Originally posted by gar70614 View Post
    i know this is prob a newb question but will 2.8 fiero manis fit a 3500 and are the primaries way to small. i searched and think they said u could slot the holes. im unsure
    In all my fun fiddling with this hobby, one of many important things I've learned is never go backwards with technology unless it's absolutely necessary or it's convenient and there is no significant loss of performance.

    The Fiero manifolds can be slotted however they will never match the area of the 3500 exhaust ports so you would end up choking the exhaust flow by doing so.

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    • gar70614
      • Oct 2008
      • 330

      #3
      yea didnt think they would have any gains jw if they would fit. asumed it would be a hp loss.

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      • Superdave
        Been there, Built that.
        • Sep 2004
        • 5850

        #4
        that's like hooking a garden hose up to a coffee straw.. lol
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • FallenZ24
          • Nov 2005
          • 178

          #5
          Definitely a bad idea using those manifolds. You can use the 3400 manifolds and build a custom exhaust. With some tight bends you may even be able to keep the trunk.
          That's how my 3500 is setup and it runs okay. You can definitely tell that it needs headers though.

          -Joseph

          1987 Fiero SE/Fastback - 3500 Turbo / OBD1 / '92 FWD Getrag 282

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          • Daguse5853Z
            Here's yer sign
            • Nov 2003
            • 155

            #6
            Ok, I have def been debating a similiar scenario in my head for the past couple of months. TGP exhaust manifolds on a 3500. Now if you take a 3.1 exhaust mani gasket and place it on the 3500 head, the ports really arent much bigger than the gasket. The 3500 exh gasket ports are huge but the actual ports on the head arent. A pic would prolly explain myself better. I think they would seal and I'm prolly test it out. Id really like to see if anyone has tried it. Or maybe would the 3100 exh gaskets be a better comprimise?
            95 Z26 3400/OBDII/GETRAG

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            • Superdave
              Been there, Built that.
              • Sep 2004
              • 5850

              #7
              the gaskets aren't the problem, the manifolds are...
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • Daguse5853Z
                Here's yer sign
                • Nov 2003
                • 155

                #8
                have you tried using the manifolds, superdave?
                95 Z26 3400/OBDII/GETRAG

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                • IsaacHayes
                  Mr. Orange.
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 6030

                  #9
                  Gaskets will always be larger.... manifolds should be as well for anti-reversion...

                  You absolutely do not want the ports larger than the gasket or manifolds. That is like hitting a brick wall! That is also why when you port exhaust ports on heads, you do NOT open them up to the full size of the gasket. You must leave them a little smaller so that gaskets/manifolds are larger...
                  sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                  1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                  16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                  Original L82 Longblock
                  with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                  Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                  • Daguse5853Z
                    Here's yer sign
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 155

                    #10
                    damn...Well I guess I should buy some flanges and build my own.
                    95 Z26 3400/OBDII/GETRAG

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                    • americasfuture2k
                      • May 2008
                      • 146

                      #11
                      I have the truleo 2.8 headers modified to fit the 3500 on my car. Well, merlot did it when he built up the motor. I know he had to open up the bolt holes so the headers would fit and he also had the flanges gasket matched to the 3500. Or maybe it was have the flanges opened up as much as the tubes would allow. It works for now till we can design some better headers made to match the power band and cam of the engine.

                      These were the headers he had on his 3.4 swap.
                      Last edited by americasfuture2k; 11-10-2009, 12:55 PM.
                      ENGINE HAS INTERNAL DAMAGE. THIS MOTOR WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE FIERO AND REPAIRED IN TIME. UNTIL THEN, A L67 WILL RESIDE IN ITS PLACE

                      87 fiero gt 5spd 3500, 1280 cam and PR, ls6 valve springs, port and polished heads, ported lim, ported uim, 4.3 70mm tb, ported trueleo headers and y pipe, 2.5 inch ex, flowtech muff, 7730 ecm, moates.net APU1, self tuning *learning* (GOT FROM MY BROTHER, divorce reasons.)

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