3.1L+3500 top swap=not possible?

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  • englundjd
    • Jan 2013
    • 31

    #1

    3.1L+3500 top swap=not possible?

    I've seen people say that the 3500 heads dont fit on the old school 3.1L iron head boat anchors... can someone elaborate as to why? I know the 3100 and 3400 tops can swap to a 3.1L but why not the 3500 top end?
    91' Cavalier z24 A3: cai, muffler (no fart can)
    94' Camaro z28 A4: turbo build commencing
    94' Firebird Formula A4: LT1 355ci, cam, stall, gears, bolt ons, tune
    98' Monte Carlo Z34 A4: stock
    07' Impala LT A4: stock
  • bszopi
    Site Coder
    • Apr 2000
    • 9186

    #2
    http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...-onto-a-93-3-1

    Post #3.
    -Brad-
    89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

    Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blog

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    • englundjd
      • Jan 2013
      • 31

      #3
      so the combustion chambers are larger then the bore if i am reading that correctly?
      91' Cavalier z24 A3: cai, muffler (no fart can)
      94' Camaro z28 A4: turbo build commencing
      94' Firebird Formula A4: LT1 355ci, cam, stall, gears, bolt ons, tune
      98' Monte Carlo Z34 A4: stock
      07' Impala LT A4: stock

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      • bszopi
        Site Coder
        • Apr 2000
        • 9186

        #4
        Yes.
        -Brad-
        89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

        Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blog

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        • englundjd
          • Jan 2013
          • 31

          #5
          so then would I be able to put a 3500 upper and lower intake on the 3400 heads and gain anything over the 3400 intake setup?
          91' Cavalier z24 A3: cai, muffler (no fart can)
          94' Camaro z28 A4: turbo build commencing
          94' Firebird Formula A4: LT1 355ci, cam, stall, gears, bolt ons, tune
          98' Monte Carlo Z34 A4: stock
          07' Impala LT A4: stock

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          • caffeine
            • Jan 2012
            • 1489

            #6
            3.1L+3500 top swap=not possible?

            Only the upper with a 3400 lower.
            '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
            '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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            • Superdave
              Been there, Built that.
              • Sep 2004
              • 5850

              #7
              Originally posted by englundjd View Post
              so then would I be able to put a 3500 upper and lower intake on the 3400 heads and gain anything over the 3400 intake setup?
              3500 upper + 3400 lower is fine on 3400/3100 heads.. 3500 lower has a different port shape and location and won't match up to 3400 heads
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • englundjd
                • Jan 2013
                • 31

                #8
                ahh I see, so the best thing to do in this case is to stick with the 3400 intake on the 3400 heads?
                91' Cavalier z24 A3: cai, muffler (no fart can)
                94' Camaro z28 A4: turbo build commencing
                94' Firebird Formula A4: LT1 355ci, cam, stall, gears, bolt ons, tune
                98' Monte Carlo Z34 A4: stock
                07' Impala LT A4: stock

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                • caffeine
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1489

                  #9
                  You can use a 3400 lower and 3500 upper
                  '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
                  '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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                  • JoeNoble
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 3

                    #10
                    May be a noob question but what would be the advantages of using the 3.4 lower and 3.5 upper on a 3.1? Better flow? Would it hurt fuel mileage? What else would have to swapped to make it work? Throttle body?

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