I swear, some people should be shot on sight

[firechiken]

They are of no value to society, and probably wouldn't even make good fertilizer.
Not for those with a weak stomach:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/7502034/detail.html

[SappySE107]

Thanks for sharing. No actually, I wish you hadn't. Thats disgusting and wrong. "I like to drink their youth". Right.

[bszopi]

Mmm, mmm, good...

(where is that vomit smiley when you need it?!?!?)

[Doubt_Incarnate]

Well at least he's in the right place now. And he doesnt have to worry about getting sick since the "boys" will be more than happy to fill him with urine through a different opening.

Have you ever searched to see what kind of sex offeneders are registered in your area? I think I found 44 in my county. Most of them were minor offenders but there was a molester or 2 I think, all of the idiots in my city were just pervs and not anything to freak about thankfully. They have to register both were they live, and where they work, so not all of what you find live near you.

[Rhedalert]

he's got that pedophile smile

[dohcfiend]

ugh that is disgusting. id almost say it was inappropriate even for the ot.

i'll give ya props though. probably the sickest shit i ever read, now i wish i hadn't.

[El_Diablo]

[Manitcor]

when guys like this get caught its always good to hear. Esp when they go to prision.

There are 2 kinds of people in jail that are conisdiered the lowest on the totem pole in the social order of prisions:

ex-cops
and
pedophiles

You can pretty much be gaurenteed that this guy will get jumped and beat to shit within his first week or so there unless they keep him in isolation.

[Mach10]

Two things:

Anyone ever hear of a couple of disorders called Pica and OCD? Sounds like he is also borderline delusional schizophrenic. Schizoid tendancies do tend to manifest themselves as quasi-religious or spiritual expressions, but they aren't always paranoid in nature.

Second, anyone notice that he hasn't laid a hand on anyone in 13 years?

This man needs psychiatric care. What do you think prison is going to do for him, besides kill him?

I'm actually interested in knowing what charge he's being held on, since last I checked, drinking urine was disqusting... Not illegal. Although the complaint filed by the father about him ghosting his son in the bathroom was probably more than valid. Likely it was a breach of parole?

The question I pose to the folks running around with torches and tying a rope to the lower branches of the town tree is this: What is the most appropriate emotion when dealing with a person like this?

Rage, that a person could be so radically different from normal, so disturbed to be doing something like this?
--OR--
Abject pity that a human being can be reduced to this kind of behavior?

If the first, what are you angry about? He's obviously sick. What good will throwing him into the lions den do for anyone?

This man should be put somewhere where he poses no danger to himself, and to others. Prison isn't going to help anyone or anything.

[Guest]

I don't see how OCD relates to this. Dilusional, yes, OCD, no.

Pity, nope, anger, no, just disgust.

I agree he needs some form of help, but I'm not going to believe there is anything more to this than needing help, I'm not going to make him out to be some sort of hurt creature, when even the most dilusional can tell right from wrong, and what is good for them and not. Even in the article it indicates that he knows it's wrong because it makes him sick, yet he continues to drink this urine because he feels that it's some sort of calling.

[Syn]

only in ohio


thats the news station i watch lol,so i was thinking it was in michigan but thank god not

[Mach10]

I don't see how OCD relates to this. Dilusional, yes, OCD, no.

I think it's a very good argument for OCD.

OCD is generally a persistant desire or need to perform a certain action. Far from the hollywood definition of locking the door 5 times when you leave, it describes a vast and variable array of mental tics or peculiarities. Basically, the person suffering from it has a need to do something over and over again. Trouble is, OCD is as often arguably a symptom of something else as it is the actual disorder.

Different people will justify their actions differently. Hand-washers will scrub until they bleed (which I would argue is far more painful than vomitting a couple times a day) maybe because they fear that their hands are dirty, or they have germs. About the only constant is that by complying with their compulsion, their brain takes a big endorphin hit and proceeds to tick along normally. Much like winning $5 at the lottery.

However, if they try and break the compulsion, they will have all kinds of bad shit happen to their minds. Everything from nervousness, feelings of impending doom, to full-out panic attacks and complete nervous breakdown (with all the lovely psychosises that implies).

Now this bloke is showing a couple of interesting traits:

1) He performs the act in a form of ritual
2) He has justified it to himself as being an elixir of life
3) He cognitively associates the illness with that activity
4) He justifies the illness with the belief that overall, it's good for him.
5) There is *ZERO* evidence supplied that this is at all sexual in nature.


It's the fact that he ritualizes it and ties metaphysical significance with the act that makes it out to be more of a schizoid behavior. The fact that the interview suggests that he doesn't get any kind of sexual gratification from it is only strange when you consider that the newspaper makes damn sure you know he was a convicted sex offender. What the specific charge was isn't stated. That in of itself suggests that he wasn't a convicted pedophile, and that putting "rapist" in this context leads you to assume that the man was a convicted pedophile. It's shitty journalism at best. I don't know the specific laws in the States, but in Canada, you can get a "rape" charge by having a slick time out with a girl, try the whole "yaaaawwwwnnn" trick, and then have the girl FREAK when you try and cop a cheap feel. When she jumps up off the couch, trips on the end-table, and manages to hurt her leg, then it's Sexual Assault Causing Bodily Harm, which according to the Canada Criminal Code is how rape is defined. For all we know of that article, He couldn't read bodly language, got frisky, got a face full of pimp-slap and then had the po-po called on him.

I'm not making excuses for him. As far as I'm concerned, a rape charge is a rape charge. What I take issue with is the sensationalistic bullshit that passes for journalism in this article. The entire article is meant to offend, inflame, and tries to coax a strong negative response so that the reader believes the worst... Thus turning a mediocre--though odd--story into something worthy of the headlines.

But I digress.... About the guy's issues:

Cultural Anthropology is full of this kind of behavior. I would have to check if coprophagy is actually practiced anywhere, but in my experience, if you can imagine it, there's probably a village in some jungle doing it. I've read some snippets to suggest that there might have been such things practiced by either hindu or bhuddist mystics... Now, since I can't get any direct articles to substantiate that, I'll leave it as a hypothetical... There's a tribe in South America (oh god, was it Africa? That exam was years ago...) that practices ritual fellatio. Male children are taught that the semen of an older man will increase their "maleness" (i.e., hunting prowess, machissimo etc) and are taught how to "recieve" this gift from their elders at an early age. And before anyone asks, no, it's not about homosexuality. It's not something to be enjoyed, it's something they feel NEEDS to be done in order to grow up healthy. I think I still have the textbooks at home, I can cite you names, authors and dates if you don't beleive me.

Now, what makes it strange is that this man came upon this behavior on it's own. Again, this makes it seem more of a psychosis. OCD implicitely refers to repeated tasks. But nowhere do the tasks have to be domestic or otherwise "normal" behaviors/actions.

I think that the point that I'm trying to make in a crazy roundabout way is that you can't comment on anything like this unless you are willing to set aside any emotional context and examine the issue at a distance.

Given the evidence supplied, I think it would be the onus of the prosecution to prove that he's sane, and that his actions are predatory in nature, and not just deviant. To say he's sick is redundant. It's obvious that he is. The real question is: What threat does he pose, and how do you best deal with it in the public's best interest?

Above all, it must be remembered that sick or sane, he's still a human being and is entitled specific rights. Putting every deviant to death is a solution of sorts, but what would that make the rest of us?

Oh, and I'm at work, there's nothing to do, I'm bored as fuck, and I want something to debate/discuss.

Flame on!

[Guest]

I can see your point about OCD, but I still disagree.

OCD in the context that you describe it could be applied to ANYBODY, at ANYTIME, that feels the need to repeat an action everyday, such as getting up and heading straight to the restroom to take that morning leak. That's not OCD as far as I'm concerned that's habit.

I don't see his need to drink this urine as OCD, but a much deeper problem. I do agree that in some cases OCD is or could be the indication of a deeper issue.

Maybe it's just because my own personal OCD causes no harm to myself or others that I take some offence to the statement.

Yes,I do agree Canada's laws seemed to be a bit skewed when it comes to the definitions, but that's a whole 'nother topic.

[Doubt_Incarnate]

way to go with the book a post or so up, you runied the whole post for me

[prodigy_16]

thank you mach for giving an unbiased and non emotional view, I thought I was the only one seeing past the authors need to make this out to be more than what it was, you are absolutly right, it is disgusting, but the question should be is it criminal. I couldnt put it better. You are right about the tribe being in south africa, the same tribe also practices mutalation of a womans clitoris when she gets married to keep her faithful by removing pleasure from sex.