OBD1.5 to OBD1 Conversion Harnesses

[robertisaar]

Robert, A1 has launch control? Sweet. That was my only reason for wanting to run $DF on a 7730. It was either that or go to the modified TPI code for that feature. People that have gone to the TPI code say it idles better than A1.... Strange.

I'll email you the stuff. Rodney is 3400beretta. (3500 turbo 282 beretta)

if you can't get two fully hacked and very similar masks to run the same, you need to step back and realize what you're doing wrong...

is that the same rodney that set up eric's car?

and shows all of the torque management stuff that i put into my A1 XDF... if there's more in the code than that, i either didn't understand it or couldn't find it.

obviously DF has a bit more complex stuff, but this should be simple enough to where anyone could understand it and use it effectively.

[IsaacHayes]

Robert, A1 has launch control? Sweet. That was my only reason for wanting to run $DF on a 7730. It was either that or go to the modified TPI code for that feature. People that have gone to the TPI code say it idles better than A1.... Strange.

I'll email you the stuff. Rodney is 3400beretta. (3500 turbo 282 beretta)

[cardana24]

who's rodney?

i'll take all the help i can get, carson has been waiting for quite some time.

and DF SHOULD run on a 7730 as long as it doesn't try to detect or use the extra RAM that should be there for trannt control...

but if not, A1 has a LOT of the functions that DF does, just a lot of the torque management is removed, though the ability to retard/advance spark in launch mode is still there...

Keep me in the loop.

[robertisaar]

Robert, I have OBD1.5 to 7730 pinout diagram notes from Rodney if that helps. I plan to do a 7730 in the orange car as it doesn't need trans controls...

BTW can manual $DF code run on a 7730? Some guys are running TPI code (IIRC there is even modified/enhanced TPI code) on the 7730 and 60*. But DF works for a 60* out of the box...

who's rodney?

i'll take all the help i can get, carson has been waiting for quite some time.

and DF SHOULD run on a 7730 as long as it doesn't try to detect or use the extra RAM that should be there for trannt control...

but if not, A1 has a LOT of the functions that DF does, just a lot of the torque management is removed, though the ability to retard/advance spark in launch mode is still there...

[IsaacHayes]

Robert, I have OBD1.5 to 7730 pinout diagram notes from Rodney if that helps. I plan to do a 7730 in the orange car as it doesn't need trans controls...

BTW can manual $DF code run on a 7730? Some guys are running TPI code (IIRC there is even modified/enhanced TPI code) on the 7730 and 60*. But DF works for a 60* out of the box...

[cardana24]

no, i'm guessing people don't like messing with the non-weatherproofed ECMs, i know i don't... and other than connectors and the case, it's the exact same ECM as a 1227727, which i have sitting in my wife's car. and the 7727 is almost identical to the 16149396, which is sitting in the MC. so far, you're the only one with an issue so far and also the only one with a 7730... i'm not sure if that's what is causing it or what but maybe john will grace us with his presence on this one since i believe he's done a few 7730s for this.

but i have been playing with max's and fleenor's tunes... even though that has NOTHING to do with the harness...

If I picked up the 1227727 that you are familiar with would it be easier for you? Or are you thinking I would still have the same problems? Let me know what you want me to do.

[robertisaar]

Have you made one for anyone else that is running a 3.4 engine with the obdI cavalier ecm?

no, i'm guessing people don't like messing with the non-weatherproofed ECMs, i know i don't... and other than connectors and the case, it's the exact same ECM as a 1227727, which i have sitting in my wife's car. and the 7727 is almost identical to the 16149396, which is sitting in the MC. so far, you're the only one with an issue so far and also the only one with a 7730... i'm not sure if that's what is causing it or what but maybe john will grace us with his presence on this one since i believe he's done a few 7730s for this.

but i have been playing with max's and fleenor's tunes... even though that has NOTHING to do with the harness...

[cardana24]

and i'm still trying to come up with a solution to an issue with cardana24's harness.... that thing haunts me to no end.

Let me know when you want to start messing with it again. The weather is finally making a turn for the better around here.

Have you made one for anyone else that is running a 3.4 engine with the obdI cavalier ecm?

[robertisaar]

the second W harness is made and about to be shipped out...

john did a few of something but can't remember what ATM(other than Max and fleenor).

and i'm still trying to come up with a solution to an issue with cardana24's harness.... that thing haunts me to no end.

but i try and keep things somewhat confidential so that the person actually having fun with the vehicles can elaborate.

[IsaacHayes]

Oh come on 'stubs you can deal with 2".... LOL

I've worked with much less but I do not recommend it. Very annoying indeed!!! Especially when you multiply that by all the wires in the connectors!!! As it stands even with the length on my connectors I will likely have to extend them with another wire before soldering to the OBD1.5 PCM connectors. No one solder connection per wire for me..

So what vehicles are these going into that you've made so far? Always good to hear of others projects.

[robertisaar]

yes i am. even though it's more of a PITA for me, it does lower the price significantly(and we all could use that these days...).

and SoopaGhetto and anyone else that expresses interest until that date will have the previous pricing of $95 base(but like i said, certain conditions will lower the price, just like how other conditions would bump it up(like having 2" stubs sticking out of the PCM connectors)).

[SoopaGhetto]

well, the recession is certainly killing me...

in one week, i'm going to bump up the price by another $10...

so, new base price for the harness will now be $105 plus shipping. that's with me supplying everything except for the PCM itself(and MEMCAL/tune obviously) and it's plugs/wiring.

as of 3-15-2010, i only have 1 harness waiting to be shipped(BTW jay i forgot to add in the cost of me retrieving the PCM plugs. X1000).

are you still accepting partial build items to reduce pricing? (like plug pieces and pigtails)

[robertisaar]

well, the recession is certainly killing me...

in one week, i'm going to bump up the price by another $10...

so, new base price for the harness will now be $105 plus shipping. that's with me supplying everything except for the PCM itself(and MEMCAL/tune obviously) and it's plugs/wiring.

as of 3-15-2010, i only have 1 harness waiting to be shipped(BTW jay i forgot to add in the cost of me retrieving the PCM plugs. X1000).

[robertisaar]

Home Depot carries some thin stuff and it's cheap. I like using the thicker stuff, but might want to check it out.

~30 miles to the nearest home depot....

i guess i can check it out when i'm in that direction, couldn't hurt.

how thin compared to the factory loom?

[ForcedFirebird]

Home Depot carries some thin stuff and it's cheap. I like using the thicker stuff, but might want to check it out.