where can i get alcohol fo alcohol injection

[eurolumina92]

i have been to all the local speed shops around me and i have been told that i have to order it but i can't order it throught them so where can i order alcohol or what could be a good sub for it. i want to get the system in and have time to tune it and what not before high school nationals may 1st please help

[phantom505]

VP Racing. They have a website somewhere....

[RacerX11]

For a diluted water/methanol mix, all of the people I know with turbo cars run with winshield washer fluid. It is an alchohol and water mix (I think ~10% alchohol) with~ 0.5% blue die for coloring. It is cheap, and readily available. It seems to do a good job of eliminating detonation with high boost, without the need for 100% alchohol.

For 100% methanol, buy some Heat gas line antifreeze. It only comes in the small bottles, but is available over the counter.

Marty

[geoffinbc]

Zylene is a common racing additive for boosted cars. But if you are gonna be at the track VP racing will get you the fuel. I am not sure how you are gonna get it unless you goto the track.

[Corpse]

"For 100% methanol, buy some Heat gas line antifreeze. It only comes in the small bottles, but is available over the counter. " Heet is available at Walmart in non-winter seasons for 25 cents per bottle. If the bottle is 16 ounces that is $2.00/Gal, that is cheap as heck.

I dunno about the fact that it is pure methanol though. if you want Ethanol, you can go in some states and buy pure grain alchohol. It will be less than $10/Gal. That is quite expensive though, you can probably find some for $5/Gal in the right place. Remember though, they make this stuff for you to drink, not your car so, it's more pricey unless you get some un-clean Ethanol.

And yes, there are some top racers that choose Ethanol over Methanol, they both have their pros/cons.

Make sure not to run Alchohol through Multec injectors or you will fry 'em.

-Dave

[RednBlack]

Any machine shop that is any good uses pure Methanol to clean Plastic Injection molds and parts. They can tell you where and how to get it. I live close to Dayton, I know where we buy ours. I've heard that adding this will also make any car pass E Checks. I've never done it, but the theory is good.

[phantom505]

#1 Don't use windshield washing fluid... ghetto and if you get a brand that doesn't use the same stuff as everyone else you are are in trouble
#2 Heet is basically isopropyl alcohol with other alcohols mixed in, you could use it but I wouldn't. Stick to methanol or ethanol.
#3 VP Racing has points of sale all over the place. You don't have to go the track. Call your closest distributor. http://www.vpracingfuels.com/
#4 "Zylene" is spelled "Xylene" and I wouldn't use it that either. It's burns really really slowly.

Take it from someone who has an alky kit on his car. (not in use right now)

[RacerX11]

You are confusing Heet (yellow bottle) with Iso Heet (red bottle). Heet (in the yellow bottle) is not "basically isopropyl alcohol with other alcohols mixed in". It is methanol with a corrosion inhibitor. The bottle says so, as does their website. According to the MSDS (MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET), it contains 99% methanol, and 1% "Proprietary Additive " That is close enough to pure methanol for these purposes.

Iso Heet, on the other hand, is 99% Isopropanol, with 1% of Proprietary Additive.

Marty

[StudlyCamaro]

why not just get rubbing alchol from a drugstore?

[phantom505]

Eh, sorry about that. I haven't seen too many yellow bottles of it. That would be acceptable if you can find it.

Rubbing alcohol is 70% IPA.

[RidgeRunner]

Rubbing alcohol is 70% IPA.

The percentage can vary, but yeah.

I picked up some 91% at CVS to use as plastic safe paint stripper.

[StudlyCamaro]

Rubbing alcohol is 70% IPA.

on turbobuick.com most of the GN people only run a 50-50 alchy-water mix.. they say that anything over 50% alcohol is a waste .. food for though

[phantom505]

In my case I run whatever I need to get the right A/F ratio because I burn it. Sometimes that was 85/15 sometimes it's 50/50. Just whatever the dyno says.

Are they using it for cooling only? Or for fuel too?

[StudlyCamaro]

not too sure.. oh i got a new idea.. how about everclear... its 95% ethanol

[phantom505]

Actually that was always my back up plan.... it's pretty cheap if you get it at Sam's or Costco.