Iron Vs. Aluminum, the Final say!

[ericjon262]

I couldn't resist...

Originally posted by lou_dias:


He's also got the car stripped and I'm fully loaded.

yeah, those heads are heavy...

[ericjon262]

lol told you!

Originally posted by lou_dias:


Your cam is radical for the street.

Originally posted by lou_dias:

PS,
I too get over 30mph on the highway...I'm using the F40 6 speed.

and then there's me trolling this remark...

[Superdave]

too bad the rear end is trashed, i'd take it out for a NRE type video and go pick up some Taco Bell or something.


If it ever warms up here i'll go pick up one from the JY and get the 4.10's installed.


edit, you called it.. haha

[ericjon262]

Boredom made me feed the troll.. lol



I hate winter.

Lol, I just read your post... lol! he'll be in there to tell you your cam is to big and you can't street drive it...

[Superdave]

Boredom made me feed the troll.. lol



I hate winter.

[caffeine]

Unfortunately, Fiero.nl is the first place I would think Fiero owners would go for advice. I know I did.

Edit: agreed on the 3800 being a good performer. IIRC almost all of the fastest 1/4 mile Fieros are using them

[ericjon262]

What annoys me is that when searching for good Fiero engine swaps, 3x00 swaps rarely come up. I only learned about them when I found a local classified ad for a 3500. Then I started looking up how difficult of a swap it would be.

I would never have considered it if I hadn't found that ad. You'd expect Fiero.nl to have more resources for swapping them considering how easy it is. Most of what you find for "easy engine swaps" are the 3.4L RWD or 3800; 3800 requires more work and 3.4L doesn't provide much of a power increase. 3x00s can often be had for cheaper and with less mileage than the above also.

Edit: then you find more swaps where people put their iron heads on a FWD block, which makes it seem like either the FWD heads are not any good or its too much work to bother.

as much as I don't like to say it, at least the 3800 is a proven performer, the 3.4 is just a turd though.

Fiero.nl really isn't that great of a site, because it's self moderated, people offering real info frequently get boo'ed out as trolls, and that only leaves the people who think a smog 305 can put out 500 hp because their swap ran a sub 15 second pass...

[caffeine]

What annoys me is that when searching for good Fiero engine swaps, 3x00 swaps rarely come up. I only learned about them when I found a local classified ad for a 3500. Then I started looking up how difficult of a swap it would be.

I would never have considered it if I hadn't found that ad. You'd expect Fiero.nl to have more resources for swapping them considering how easy it is. Most of what you find for "easy engine swaps" are the 3.4L RWD or 3800; 3800 requires more work and 3.4L doesn't provide much of a power increase. 3x00s can often be had for cheaper and with less mileage than the above also.

Edit: then you find more swaps where people put their iron heads on a FWD block, which makes it seem like either the FWD heads are not any good or its too much work to bother.

[SappySE107]

You can't. I tried, this site is proof enough of that.

[ericjon262]

Sure we do, and they know better than to waste their time arguing over iron heads with ANYONE.

I'm just attempting to stop the spread of mis-information...

[SappySE107]

whoa whoa whoa! come on now! you got a couple of fiero owners on here who have a little sense!

Sure we do, and they know better than to waste their time arguing over iron heads with ANYONE.

[ericjon262]

lol... "Race Prepped"

it's not worth my time or energy to join over there and make a reply but you can let them know that it made those dyno numbers on 89 octane E10. It was perfectly streetable in the 5 speed cavalier, and in the Camaro even more so. The converter is pretty loose but i have no problems getting around. It even managed to break the 10 bolt rear end w/o the ITB's installed (stock plenum with a 75mm TB).


Have him post up 1 single N/A iron head 5 speed engine combo that puts down 275WHP/250WTQ, gets 30+ highway MPG, runs fine on 89 octane and is reliable enough to DD and has a torque curve like this: http://www.sdsgarage.com/Misc/3500/08-Dyno.gif

My setup is far from race prepped with it's completely stock bottom end, stock rockers, home built headers, home ported top end, etc...


lol, a book from 1982.. it's 2013.

lol, I've been begging for a dyno of a IH motor with a torque curve like that, he has yet to produce one!

[ericjon262]

Arguing with fiero owners is like breathing underwater without scuba gear. You can, but its not going to do you a damn bit of good.

whoa whoa whoa! come on now! you got a couple of fiero owners on here who have a little sense!

[Superdave]

Does anyone know if I can put GenI iron heads on a 3900 ?

I wanted to go with the superior iron heads for the '13 racing season in the Camaro.

You should put a set or 2 in the hatch for traction.

[Mars]

Does anyone know if I can put GenI iron heads on a 3900 ?

I wanted to go with the superior iron heads for the '13 racing season in the Camaro.