Trick to remove spark plugs?

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  • KKolds
    • Aug 2005
    • 3

    #1

    Trick to remove spark plugs?

    93 Cutlass with 3.4. Is there a trick to removing the spark plugs near the firewall?
  • Doubt_Incarnate
    I still watch ROBOTECH!
    • Jan 2005
    • 1130

    #2
    i worked with a guy that had the tdc 3.4 in a GP and he showed me all he had to do was pull a rubber cowl seal off and his ratchet would just fit
    If you aren't friends with a liar, you aren't friends with anyone.

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    • birdman
      • May 2005
      • 274

      #3
      if that dont work the way the book tells you to do it is to remove the upper plenum, its not that hard but adds to the costs because you have to get plenum, egr, and coolant gaskets about 30 dollars. good time to port polish and gasket match.
      92 Lumina euro 3.4 DOHC 139,XXX miles

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      • Kevwood
        • May 2004
        • 122

        #4
        I use to have a hell of a time reaching the back plugs, but found an easy way to get to them;

        Remove the engine side bolt from the dog bone and swing it down out of the way, push the car forward (while in park, best whith a friend pushing) and put the park brake on. You will have rocked the engine forward and locked it there with the brake - now there is plenty of room to work.

        When I had the motor out of my current Z34, I cut 3 provisions out of the firewall lip underneath the rubber moulding, now it's a piece of cake to get at the plugs without moving anything.
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        • bud36light
          • Nov 2003
          • 517

          #5
          run a search on the site. We had a couple of pretty good threads going there for a while.
          2004 Grand Am GT 3400 ... I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability.(Ron White)

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          • GTP091
            • Jun 2005
            • 232

            #6
            Removal of Rear spark plugs

            It's easier than that. Pull off the hood seal above the firewall and you'll see three spots cut from the factory sheet metal to allow a socket extension in there. Be sure to wrap electrical tape around the socket and extension to keep it from falling off when your in there.
            1991 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP / 3.4 DOHC

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            • SappySE107
              WOT-Tech
              • Oct 2003
              • 13520

              #7
              RE: Removal of Rear spark plugs

              There are no spots cut from the factory sheet metal unless you put them there.
              Ben
              60DegreeV6.com
              WOT-Tech.com

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              • OldSkoolGP
                That guy over there
                • Oct 2003
                • 930

                #8
                I still think the dogbone detachment method is the best cuz it's easy and very effective. Plus, my motor naturally rocks forward with it off. That's what new, rock hard motor mounts getcha!
                I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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                • timg
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 718

                  #9
                  I agree about the electrical tape. Without it, it's VERY easy to have your spark plug socket stuck in the head.
                  With proper extensions and flex joints, I don't have to remove the rubber seal or tilt my engine.

                  Tim
                  1995 Z34 - T04E "60" trim, 42.5 lb/hr injectors, AEM WBO2, FFP UD&DB, 3" exhaust, 2800 stall, shift kit, tranny cooler, Powerslot, Hawk HPS, rear disc conversion, KYB, Eibach, HMS F&R STB, Fittipaldi Force 18" wheels, big stereo, lots more coming eventually...
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                  • RednBlack
                    Wood Hippie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2795

                    #10
                    Re: RE: Removal of Rear spark plugs

                    Originally posted by sappyse107
                    There are no spots cut from the factory sheet metal unless you put them there.
                    LikeI did. I change all 6 in 10 mins. Have for 2 years thanx to this site.
                    If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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                    • Lyle's GTP
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1345

                      #11
                      RE: Re: RE: Removal of Rear spark plugs

                      It depends on the type and year of the car. Some cars you can't without cutting and some you HAVE to remove the plenum.

                      Lyle

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                      • GTP091
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 232

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Removal of Rear spark plugs

                        Originally posted by sappyse107
                        There are no spots cut from the factory sheet metal unless you put them there.
                        Yes they are cut from factory and they are put there for spark plug removal. I've seen them on other W-body parts cars from the same era.
                        1991 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP / 3.4 DOHC

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                        • Husky
                          It's like... ya know?
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Maybe some enterprising mechanic did it so he could get it done quicker, then he did it to all 3.4s he came across.
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                          • Rosez34
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 59

                            #14
                            no cuts in my car...i just bent the lip up and then back down when i was done.
                            1995 Monte Carlo Z34

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                            • GndPrxRcr
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 18

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OldSkoolGP
                              I still think the dogbone detachment method is the best cuz it's easy and very effective. Plus, my motor naturally rocks forward with it off. That's what new, rock hard motor mounts getcha!
                              the dogbone trick is the best. just remove it (or them), put the car in N and pull the motor fwd and put the car in gear (or P). just make sure the e-brake is on. it real isn't that hard.
                              1993 Pontiac Grand Prix
                              1969 Chevrolet Camaro
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