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  • 3400-95-Modified
    The Pink Car
    • Dec 2005
    • 4375

    #286
    durr... good point...

    but is what I stated true for GM ECM's?

    I still find it odd that the Holley unit relies on a narrow band for a WOT fueling though since they are so inaccurate.

    Got Lope?
    3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
    Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
    Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
    12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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    • Superdave
      Been there, Built that.
      • Sep 2004
      • 5850

      #287
      i was using my '7730. Commander needs to be tuned.

      in $A1 the o2 signal is still used at WOT but only if the AFR is leaner than it's commanded. In my case it saw a horribly lean signal and you can see the integrator rockets up and fattens up the pulsewidth.

      If it's richer than commanded then it does nothing.
      Past Builds;
      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
      Current Project;
      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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      • torq455
        If I only had money!!!
        • Dec 2003
        • 1615

        #288
        Originally posted by Superdave View Post
        14's are like a kick in the nuts.. it should be low 13's or high 12's


        Sad thing is that it's probably the fastest N/A 60v6 Fbody right now..
        HA! It's sad because it's the fastest N/A Fbody. WTF?! I get your point Dave, it's just a funny statement.
        Andy

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        fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
        fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

        62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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        • 2.8/3400 1985 Camaro
          • Nov 2009
          • 192

          #289
          It isn't really all that surprising tbh, I know of like one or 2 other guys running hybrids, and another that has one in the works, but considering dave has a full on 3500 with ITBs hes at least a step ahead of everyone else I would say, as far as N/A 60/6 f-bodies go.
          I probably have one of the fastest N/A iron headed 60/6s though, still on the fence what direction to go in though for more power, just going to leave that up to how much money I have to kick around when I have some to kick around again, but I REALLY want to put a 3.6 DI in it, esp after finding out they only cost about as much as an ls1. Though if I can't manage a 165 swap, Idk that I could manage it. Idk why GM hasn't offered it as a crate motor like they do the ls3, or an aftermarket company offered a standalone ECU that can run, I know the aussies cracked the code on them already though, so possibly they might offer something soon, or be able to do it on a request and the fact it would sell like hotcakes. That motor in a weight reduced 3rd gen would be a bloody rocket, and still handle like it was on rails...
          Probably I will get it running as is and leave the motor be while I work on the rest of the car, then worry about more power, cause atm I just want to be able to drive my camaro again, maverick says he sent me the memcals today, so hopefully that fixes her up, just in time for winter...again.
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          http://www.cardomain.com/ride/390342...evrolet-camaro

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          • Superdave
            Been there, Built that.
            • Sep 2004
            • 5850

            #290
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • 3400-95-Modified
              The Pink Car
              • Dec 2005
              • 4375

              #291
              Originally posted by Superdave View Post
              Prime example why gas is so expensive, Dave is using it all...

              Got Lope?
              3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
              Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
              Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
              12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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              • TechRod
                Destruction Worker
                • Feb 2009
                • 162

                #292
                Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                Prime example why gas is so expensive, Dave is using it all...
                I'm sure he wouldn't mind if it was all being burnt
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                "It's your car. Do with it what you wish, but as you enter this unknown world you will need to invent the wheel all over again. For the adventurous and those that are backyard mechanics who have nothing but time you might like this. Most have plenty of frustrating moments and the process usually takes significantly longer then what anyone could imagine. The end result of this conversion is completely up to you." - Jon McCullough of BMCautos.com

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                • 2.8/3400 1985 Camaro
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 192

                  #293
                  And I thought my camaro ran rich.....hard to believe there is an o2 sensor under all that, lol.
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                  http://www.cardomain.com/ride/390342...evrolet-camaro

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                  • Superdave
                    Been there, Built that.
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 5850

                    #294
                    picked up the new WBo2 today, $51 at the parts store. Just need to get it back in, wire up the other o2 and then try to figure out my trans issues and it'll be back on the road.


                    I had to steal the battery out of it though, the Duralast gold in my truck died and stranded the family and I at Walmart tonight.
                    Past Builds;
                    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                    Current Project;
                    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                    • Superdave
                      Been there, Built that.
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 5850

                      #295
                      Winter sucks.. so to pass the time i bought some new goodies...





                      Pair of Hooker Aerochambers, X pipe and a Holley harness for my Commander 950 ecu.


                      I want to clean up the wiring and this harness should do just that.



                      Did i mention that i only paid $16.50 for each Aerochamber?

                      I bought display models, all i need to do is pick up some sheet metal, cut out a patch and weld it in. Normally they are about $70 each.


                      Here is the inside of one...




                      I'm sure there are more on ebay, this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a badass muffler for very cheap. As long as you can weld it you're good to go.
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • TechRod
                        Destruction Worker
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 162

                        #296
                        That's a great tip Superdave, thanks!
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                        "It's your car. Do with it what you wish, but as you enter this unknown world you will need to invent the wheel all over again. For the adventurous and those that are backyard mechanics who have nothing but time you might like this. Most have plenty of frustrating moments and the process usually takes significantly longer then what anyone could imagine. The end result of this conversion is completely up to you." - Jon McCullough of BMCautos.com

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                        • 3400-95-Modified
                          The Pink Car
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 4375

                          #297
                          Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                          Winter sucks.. so to pass the time i bought some new goodies...





                          Pair of Hooker Aerochambers, X pipe and a Holley harness for my Commander 950 ecu.


                          I want to clean up the wiring and this harness should do just that.



                          Did i mention that i only paid $16.50 for each Aerochamber?

                          I bought display models, all i need to do is pick up some sheet metal, cut out a patch and weld it in. Normally they are about $70 each.

                          I'm sure there are more on ebay, this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a badass muffler for very cheap. As long as you can weld it you're good to go.
                          HRMMM... I was planning on redoing the exhaust on Pinky this year since it's started to crack in some spots... Too much lope and shaking... lol

                          Got Lope?
                          3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                          Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                          Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                          12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                          • dskopek
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 124

                            #298
                            Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                            HRMMM... I was planning on redoing the exhaust on Pinky this year since it's started to crack in some spots... Too much lope and shaking... lol
                            Did not know you could have too much lope!!!

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                            • geldartb
                              The Situation
                              • May 2004
                              • 1994

                              #299
                              Originally posted by Superdave View Post

                              I'm sure there are more on ebay, this is a good opportunity for anyone to get a badass muffler for very cheap. As long as you can weld it you're good to go.
                              looks like they got a bunch of them
                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hooker-Heade...item5198daf822
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                              99 Grand Am GT
                              3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                              Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                              1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                              515 515 lift 112 lsa
                              15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                              • Superdave
                                Been there, Built that.
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 5850

                                #300
                                Yep, same guy. He also hooked me up with the 950 Commander harness.
                                Past Builds;
                                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                                Current Project;
                                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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