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  • powerdoctor
    • Apr 2008
    • 133

    #1

    High or low ?

    Higher compression engines with low boost ...
    Or lower compression and more boost ..... ?
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  • Z26-T
    • Apr 2008
    • 486

    #2
    lower compression with more boost, if u can tune it properly. Boost with high compression you start running into major detonation problems, and have to run more octane=tons more for fuel. (by high compression i mean 10+) (lower comp with higher boost id stick around 8.5) But it's just my opinion.
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    • IsaacHayes
      Mr. Orange.
      • Apr 2006
      • 6030

      #3
      Depends probably on the end goal. But I have wondered too. I'd say for a street driven application, low boost (10psi and under), high compression (meaning stock N/A) since you'll have more power and response when the turbo is not spooled up yet.
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      • Z26-T
        • Apr 2008
        • 486

        #4
        Yeah, it depends on what you really want. If you don't mind some slight turbo lag while it's spooling to 10+ psi, then lower compression. But if you want power off the line (if you're not power braking/holding in the clutch) then stock compression with lower than 10 psi of boost. "idealy" you can put 10 psi to any engine, according to a few boost books, but you have be able to tune it, adjust your fuel pressure, and add more than what you can stock. And if you look in the "boost" section of this forum, there are other things you can do as well to help prevention of detonation (detonation is what basically blows up your engine). And most of the time, it starts to detonate at your higher rpms/boost, and by that time it's too late.
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        • powerdoctor
          • Apr 2008
          • 133

          #5
          I have ran engines both way's and I prefer the high static comp, with the low boost, like a supercharger on an old sbc/ bbc.

          The low end power issues below boost is what I hate....

          I like a rich mix, about 15.1 for tuning for boost, some say 12.5/ 1 af is ideal...
          Seems lean to me...
          Last edited by powerdoctor; 04-15-2008, 09:21 AM.
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          • SappySE107
            WOT-Tech
            • Oct 2003
            • 13531

            #6
            Originally posted by powerdoctor View Post
            I have ran engines both way's and I prefer the high static comp, with the low boost, like a supercharger on an old sbc/ bbc.

            The low end power issues below boost is what I hate....

            I like a rich mix, about 15.1 for tuning for boost, some say 12.5/ 1 af is ideal...
            Seems lean to me...
            How the hell do you do this for a living when you don't even know 12.5:1 is rich and 15:1 is lean?
            Ben
            60DegreeV6.com
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            • JMo60
              • Oct 2005
              • 300

              #7
              12.5 :1 is richer than 15:1 FYI. an engine running an AFR of 15:1 under boost is gonna probably burn up, or at least not run well, and very hot
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              3400- NX 75 shot, Cammotion cam, S&S headers, and a few more toys

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              • JMo60
                • Oct 2005
                • 300

                #8
                sorry ben, you posted the same time i did
                94 Grand Prix
                3400- NX 75 shot, Cammotion cam, S&S headers, and a few more toys

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                • powerdoctor
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 133

                  #9
                  I'm chasing a 1.5 yo around (my son)
                  I watch my boys every morning while the wife works...
                  sorry about the mess up , you know what I mean....

                  Later haters......
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                  • Z26-T
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 486

                    #10
                    Originally posted by powerdoctor View Post
                    I'm chasing a 1.5 yo around (my son)
                    I watch my boys every morning while the wife works...
                    sorry about the mess up , you know what I mean....

                    Later haters......

                    That's one of the best cover ups ive heard .

                    Lean is mean
                    You may or may not know 10 times what i do.
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                    • sprucegagt
                      Old School KI
                      • May 2005
                      • 703

                      #11
                      Then what AFR do you prefer?
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                      • Z26-T
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 486

                        #12
                        I still prefer 14.7-1, but that's just me . Lean is mean, but replacing engines is worse .
                        You may or may not know 10 times what i do.
                        ASE Master certified. Just means I can take tests. GM ASEP Graduate.
                        95' Z26, ported/cammed 3400/3500, OBD2, 282, T3T4. Boxes almost all empty..

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                        • IsaacHayes
                          Mr. Orange.
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 6030

                          #13
                          14.7 for N/A cruising, but when you go WOT even on a N/A engine, you need richer.
                          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                          Original L82 Longblock
                          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                          • Canyonero
                            Plays with Volvos now.
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1112

                            #14
                            I have limited understanding of boost, but I was planning to keep the stock compression and run ≤10psi on my next build.
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                            • ForcedFirebird
                              Live life 3.7mi at a time
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4555

                              #15
                              I plan on boosting my 11.5:1 engine
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