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  • gectek
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 1472

    #16
    well i wanted the titanium to shave some weight, but didnt work out like that. im just going to use the stock retainers and hardened steel locks, and i think ill keep my lift at a little below 500 just to be safe

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    • Superdave
      Been there, Built that.
      • Sep 2004
      • 5850

      #17
      Originally posted by gectek View Post
      well i wanted the titanium to shave some weight, but didnt work out like that. im just going to use the stock retainers and hardened steel locks, and i think ill keep my lift at a little below 500 just to be safe
      Good idea.. You can always up the duration to make up for the lower lift as well...
      Past Builds;
      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
      Current Project;
      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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      • gectek
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 1472

        #18
        well i think ill go with the 507 as max lift on ext. but anyway Ben do u have a diff number for the titanium retainers that u use on the beehive springs?

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        • SappySE107
          WOT-Tech
          • Oct 2003
          • 13522

          #19
          A different number?
          Ben
          60DegreeV6.com
          WOT-Tech.com

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          • gectek
            Banned
            • Aug 2006
            • 1472

            #20
            yah u asked me the # of the retainers u used that didnt fit and they were 788-12 for the beehive springs and was just wondering if you had a diff # for them. i took mine back, but i really want the titanium retainers and i get a big discount from comp, so i was still looking for some.

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            • SappySE107
              WOT-Tech
              • Oct 2003
              • 13522

              #21
              772 or 774, one is titanium and one is steel.
              Ben
              60DegreeV6.com
              WOT-Tech.com

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              • gectek
                Banned
                • Aug 2006
                • 1472

                #22
                cool, the 772 is the tit retainer. also what locks were u using for those, the hardened steel or stock, because the stock 3400 locks are about 2 or 3 grams lighter for the pair than the hardened steel from comp

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                • Superdave
                  Been there, Built that.
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 5850

                  #23
                  Ok, i don't get it...

                  LS1
                  1.7" 106#
                  1.3" 177#
                  Coil Bind 1.290

                  that means safe lift is .410 with those springs.. when stock 3400 lift is .430.

                  Has anyone ran higher lift on the LS1 springs?
                  Past Builds;
                  1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                  1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                  Current Project;
                  1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                  • rvbilly
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 46

                    #24
                    2.8 & 3.4 Crate Spring Rates ???

                    Hi , mayby a bit off topic but was curious if anyone knows what a stock 88 2.8 HO spring is rated at , and the same for the GM 3.4 Crate engine spring, My cam will only have a max lift of .456 inch so would the 3.4 crate springs be a good choice ? Thanks Bill..

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                    • Superdave
                      Been there, Built that.
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 5850

                      #25
                      http://60degreev6.com/local_links.php?catid=15


                      should all be in there
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • SappySE107
                        WOT-Tech
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 13522

                        #26
                        The pressure and coil bind numbers aren't right. I wish this thread would die honestly. Those measurements were for what scott at the machine shop here felt was a good max lift. They are not true coil bind. .53x has been used on the LS6 springs, though I prefer to see .52x max personally and use the comp 26986 springs for higher lift or machine the heads to increase the install height to 1.75"
                        Ben
                        60DegreeV6.com
                        WOT-Tech.com

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                        • Superdave
                          Been there, Built that.
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 5850

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SappySE107 View Post
                          The pressure and coil bind numbers aren't right. I wish this thread would die honestly. Those measurements were for what scott at the machine shop here felt was a good max lift. They are not true coil bind. .53x has been used on the LS6 springs, though I prefer to see .52x max personally and use the comp 26986 springs for higher lift or machine the heads to increase the install height to 1.75"
                          So in that case, what's the real specs on the LS1's then?

                          we're looking at running around .470 lift. Install height is 1.682.
                          Past Builds;
                          1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                          1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                          Current Project;
                          1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                          • gectek
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1472

                            #28
                            why such low lift....stock 3400 is 436

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                            • SappySE107
                              WOT-Tech
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 13522

                              #29
                              I thought I posted in another thread on their specs. They aren't much better than stock but I don't know how much lift you can go. After seeing them coilbind on a stock 2.2 with the 2.2 retainers, I don't trust them for much over .430 in our motors.
                              Ben
                              60DegreeV6.com
                              WOT-Tech.com

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                              • gectek
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1472

                                #30
                                but ull trust the LS6 til about .520 or so right

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