Identifying 3.1l engine

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  • 1987k20
    • Sep 2009
    • 6

    #1

    Question : Identifying 3.1l engine

    Im working on a 99 malibu, has a 3.1l sfi engine replacing the intake gasket. The engine was replaced at some point in the past and I dont know what car it came out of so I dont know if it is a J or M vin code. The car was originally an M but they could have put any of them in. Does anyone know of a way to identify which one it is, as they both have their own p/n's for the intake gaskets. Thanks. Chris
  • robertisaar
    W-Body for Life!
    • May 2007
    • 6414

    #2
    does the intake look like this:

    or this:


    basically: does it have ridges above and below the writing?
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    • 1987k20
      • Sep 2009
      • 6

      #3
      no ridges, but as I recall the original intake didnt have ridges and it is an M vin car.

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      • IsaacHayes
        Mr. Orange.
        • Apr 2006
        • 6030

        #4
        All VIN M engines have ridges..
        sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
        16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
        Original L82 Longblock
        with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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        • 1987k20
          • Sep 2009
          • 6

          #5
          well I found written on the rear valve cover that the engine was either pulled in 2002 or was pulled from a 2002. It said IN 7/02. Anyone make a guess as to what it was, it supposedly had 40k miles on it.....it aint my car and I had no dealings with the engine swap...so Im left holding the bag on this. Are there no casting numbers on this engine that might tell me something?

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          • IsaacHayes
            Mr. Orange.
            • Apr 2006
            • 6030

            #6
            It's a VIN J 3100.. what more do you need?
            sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
            1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
            16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
            Original L82 Longblock
            with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
            Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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            • 1987k20
              • Sep 2009
              • 6

              #7
              Just making sure, dont want to put the J code gasket kit in and it still leak and have to do this job again....I think I would hang myself instead. What are the differences in the gaskets out of curiosity?

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              • IsaacHayes
                Mr. Orange.
                • Apr 2006
                • 6030

                #8
                The main difference is the upper intake gasket will be different (since M is small ports)... Which is cheap and easy to get to.. Go for the metal felpro or dorman kit so you don't have the crappy plastic ones again. If the engine looks like the top pic and has 00 or later cast on the LIM then you have a VIN J.
                sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                Original L82 Longblock
                with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                • 1987k20
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6

                  #9
                  LIM?

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                  • IsaacHayes
                    Mr. Orange.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 6030

                    #10
                    lim = lower intake manifold
                    uim = upper intake manifold
                    sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                    Original L82 Longblock
                    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                    • 1987k20
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 6

                      #11
                      I dont recall seeing anything cast on it, I will look tomorrow

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                      • IsaacHayes
                        Mr. Orange.
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 6030

                        #12
                        Look by the top of the LIM near the PCV. But yeah if the UIM is smooth and no lines then it's a VIN J
                        sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                        16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                        Original L82 Longblock
                        with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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