Before I do My 3400/3500 Hybrid

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  • MidnightriderZ24
    • Jan 2005
    • 699

    #16
    yeah, just call up wiseco and have them make u some up.
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    • 34blazer
      • Sep 2007
      • 341

      #17
      did you have them lower the ringlands? im just wondering cause i dont want to run into problems with the top ringland breaking.
      '86 Grand National

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      • zofo61
        Banned
        • Oct 2005
        • 436

        #18
        If I swap the topend with the 3500.....do I use the 3500 pushrods in order or do i use the original 3400 pushrods in order....may sound stupid but I know I have to use the pushrods in the order that they come out but on the swap which ones?

        Thanks

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        • Superdave
          Been there, Built that.
          • Sep 2004
          • 5850

          #19
          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
          You used the 3400 gasket in your calculation, 8.79 would be the compression. You have to remember the 3500 gaskets have a 3.8" bore. It's not as important in a low compression motor, but I'm going to be over 11:1, and every tenth of a point helps .

          EDIT: Pistons will be fine if tuned. You can get a boost cam profile for a few extra ponies, tell the supplier what you have and they will give you suggestions on profile.

          Stock rods are very strong, just upgrade hardware.

          If you overbore, your compression will be raised. Keep the walls as thick as you can for boost.

          EDIT again: I can't believe you put a S/C on there with NO extra added fuel?!? I hit the rev limiter on my car causing a lean condition and spun a bearing at 7psi. Sounded like a cannon going off, lol. Rods will be comming out soon for inspection, but the pistons are all fine (stock cast).


          you should measure a 3500 headgasket.. the bore is actually like 3.74" VS the 3.4 Iron head gasket that's 3.71"
          Past Builds;
          1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
          1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
          Current Project;
          1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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          • Superdave
            Been there, Built that.
            • Sep 2004
            • 5850

            #20
            Originally posted by zofo61 View Post
            If I swap the topend with the 3500.....do I use the 3500 pushrods in order or do i use the original 3400 pushrods in order....may sound stupid but I know I have to use the pushrods in the order that they come out but on the swap which ones?

            Thanks
            3400 and 3500 pushrods are the same.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • zofo61
              Banned
              • Oct 2005
              • 436

              #21
              I know that they are the same ....but......whenever you do a topend you should put the same pushrod into the same hole it came out of......I dont know which ones to use in the case of a swap.......the 3400 blocks pushrods or the 3500 block pushrods......or does it matter....the 3400s pushrods are the ones the cam knows and the 3500s pushrods are the ones that the rockers know........I just want all to be happy,,,,,,,,input?

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              • ForcedFirebird
                Live life 3.7mi at a time
                • Jan 2007
                • 4555

                #22
                Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                you should measure a 3500 headgasket.. the bore is actually like 3.74" VS the 3.4 Iron head gasket that's 3.71"
                Could have sworn I did . 3.8", but I'll check again.
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                • ForcedFirebird
                  Live life 3.7mi at a time
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4555

                  #23
                  3.8" on the nose

                  And I haven't seen snow since 1989
                  Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 10-30-2007, 03:40 PM.
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                  • zofo61
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 436

                    #24
                    Originally posted by zofo61 View Post
                    I know that they are the same ....but......whenever you do a topend you should put the same pushrod into the same hole it came out of......I dont know which ones to use in the case of a swap.......the 3400 blocks pushrods or the 3500 block pushrods......or does it matter....the 3400s pushrods are the ones the cam knows and the 3500s pushrods are the ones that the rockers know........I just want all to be happy,,,,,,,,input?
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                    • bszopi
                      Site Coder
                      • Apr 2000
                      • 9179

                      #25
                      The statement you are referring to - "put the pushrods in the same place that they came from" - is usually just to make sure that people get the intake and exhaust pushrods back in the right order, since they are different lengths. So, you could mix and match your 3400 and 3500 pushrods all you want, AS LONG AS the exhaust pushrods go with the exhaust rockers and the intake pushrods go with the intake rockers.
                      -Brad-
                      89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                      • zofo61
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 436

                        #26
                        Thanks Brad.....I appreciate the clarification.............

                        Cheers

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                        • zofo61
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 436

                          #27
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                          • Superdave
                            Been there, Built that.
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 5850

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
                            Could have sworn I did . 3.8", but I'll check again.
                            Maybe it's because mine were used..??

                            weird.

                            I'll check again, they're still hanging on the wall.
                            Past Builds;
                            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                            Current Project;
                            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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