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  • 1meanz
    • Nov 2007
    • 197

    #1

    pushrod length question

    hey guys, im putting a 1995 3100 topend on my 1994 3.1 and i have had mixed answers, some saying i could use the stock pushrods some saying i couldnt.

    when i checked with the stock pushrod with the lifter down the valve opened when i tightened the rocker arm down. and when i used the adjustable pushrod it was shorter then the stock pushrod, and yes i know theres 2 different size pushrods lol.

    so the question is. do i have to get custom pushrods? and is there any way i could use the stock pushrods? like some kinda specal spacer for the rocker stud or something?

    thanx guys!

    cody
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  • SappySE107
    WOT-Tech
    • Oct 2003
    • 13507

    #2
    Was the lifter on the base of the cam lobe. You shouldn't need different length pushrods if you have the same flat tappet cam and lifters in the block as you had before.
    Ben
    60DegreeV6.com
    WOT-Tech.com

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    • Superdave
      Been there, Built that.
      • Sep 2004
      • 5850

      #3
      ^^ that's what i was thinking

      the 95 3100 heads are basically the same as Gen2's up top, same pushrod guides and rockers.
      Past Builds;
      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
      Current Project;
      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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      • 1meanz
        • Nov 2007
        • 197

        #4
        yea the lifter was on the base of the cam. i dont understand why the stock 3.1 pushrods wont work? this is getting agervated!
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        • IsaacHayes
          Mr. Orange.
          • Apr 2006
          • 6030

          #5
          From everything I've read you need custom. It's been posted the lengths before on here that different people measured/ran.
          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
          Original L82 Longblock
          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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          • Superdave
            Been there, Built that.
            • Sep 2004
            • 5850

            #6
            try it again on a different pair of valves.. and remember, the exhaust ones are longer
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • Superdave
              Been there, Built that.
              • Sep 2004
              • 5850

              #7
              Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
              From everything I've read you need custom. It's been posted the lengths before on here that different people measured/ran.
              that's for the pedistal mounted roller rockers.. his are the same as gen2's



              (he sent that to me in the #V6Z24 chat)
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • IsaacHayes
                Mr. Orange.
                • Apr 2006
                • 6030

                #8
                My rockers are ball & pivot. But not same as gen2. My rockers are not roller but are 1.6:1. The gen2 are not. Most 96 and up 3100's got the pedestal mount roller fulcrums. And AFAIK all 3100 use the same pushrods other than some being heat treated cause they run in guides.
                sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                Original L82 Longblock
                with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                • 1meanz
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 197

                  #9
                  well i tried putting my gen2 rockers on and checking, same result. the difference is about the length of the ball on the end of the pushrod. its just enough to open up the valve when the rocker arm is tightened down. all i can figure is i have to have coustom pushrods?
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                  • IsaacHayes
                    Mr. Orange.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 6030

                    #10
                    http://www.domesticcrew.com/660/faq.html#14
                    http://www.domesticcrew.com/660/hybrid.html
                    sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                    Original L82 Longblock
                    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                    • Superdave
                      Been there, Built that.
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 5850

                      #11
                      6.250" ex & 5.950" Intake is about the average used for hybrids.

                      www.pushrods.net just a little over $100 make sure you tell them that you'll be using guideplates.
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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