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  • 20-inch-bike
    • Jan 2009
    • 32

    #16
    super dave thanks... and ive never even heard of the 3.5 i take it there hard to find... do the parts interchange? and the reason im going to cast heads is because of the intakes avialble...

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    • Canyonero
      Plays with Volvos now.
      • Sep 2006
      • 1112

      #17
      3500s are newer, 2005+ I think. Not hard to find. $500 for a 30-40k mile engine from the salvage yards around here. Search for a 2005 Pontiac G6.
      '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
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      • ForcedFirebird
        Live life 3.7mi at a time
        • Jan 2007
        • 4555

        #18
        2004 to 2005
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        • 20-inch-bike
          • Jan 2009
          • 32

          #19
          are the parts interchangeable from the 3.5? and superdave the compression height of any 2.8 piston isnt gonna work with the larger stroke of the 3.1

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          • Superdave
            Been there, Built that.
            • Sep 2004
            • 5850

            #20
            Originally posted by 20-inch-bike View Post
            are the parts interchangeable from the 3.5? and superdave the compression height of any 2.8 piston isnt gonna work with the larger stroke of the 3.1



            correct, the compression height of the 2.8 and 3.1 are different.. so if you are using a 3100 V6 with the 3.31" stroke crank you'll need to use 3.1 pistons form an iron headded engine.

            the 3500 V6 parts will only fit on either a 3400 V6 (generation 3) and a 3.4 V6 (93-95 Camaro) due to the combustion chamber size.

            I went with the whole 3500, it's 201 HP stock.. with a cam, headers and port work mine is pushing around 320 HP on regular pump gas.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • 20-inch-bike
              • Jan 2009
              • 32

              #21
              well cool but if the 3.5 heads fit on a 3.4 wont they fit on all 3.4's? and cool makes sense on the cast headed piston.. i was trying to simply do a quick find on summit and no go.. ill reffrence them on a book.. with the heads i still have the problem of intakes till someone makes a intake for a carb and distributor for alum. heads im ******... but ari said they have plans to do so... but there rumor is there gonna make it so it'll only fit there heads.. dave thanks for the help
              Last edited by 20-inch-bike; 01-13-2009, 05:06 PM. Reason: error

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              • 20-inch-bike
                • Jan 2009
                • 32

                #22
                and where are you guys finding headers?

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                • bszopi
                  Site Coder
                  • Apr 2000
                  • 9186

                  #23
                  S&S headers makes a set for the GA that would fit the alum head engines. For the iron heads, Edelbrock used to make some, although I'm not sure the current availability of them. You can also do custom. Contact betterthanyou on the site for a set of flanges.

                  Might also want to look on ebay, as I know a few months ago, there was a custom intake to allow a carb on aluminum heads. Not sure if it ever sold or not...
                  -Brad-
                  89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                  • ForcedFirebird
                    Live life 3.7mi at a time
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4555

                    #24
                    RWD headers fit if you open the mounting holes a little (Camaro/Firebird, S10 etc). Not sure of the mounting configuration in the rail, but this may be a cheap/easy for you and give you a few choices.
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                    • 20-inch-bike
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 32

                      #25
                      who made the intake and how do i find it???

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                      • bszopi
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                        • Apr 2000
                        • 9186

                        #26
                        I think it was a custom piece. I looked at the old thread where I originally saw it and tried going to the ebay item #, but it said it was invalid. Then I did a search on ebay, and nothing came up.

                        Here is what you should do...



                        http://www.tcecnc.com/minusone.htm Shameless plug for Marc's car and shop...
                        -Brad-
                        89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                        • 20-inch-bike
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 32

                          #27
                          i agree its nice but i limits me to much on my options... tire size plus weight and so forth.. ive seen the conversion done before... my rail has 16 inches of travel.. with the parts i have it'll run.. and run good but im looking to make it run to best i can and really pump some power through this motor its light weight compared to most with alot of options.. if i build it as low compression as i can i could just slap a turbo and go...

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                          • bszopi
                            Site Coder
                            • Apr 2000
                            • 9186

                            #28
                            You can put a turbo on a stock 3x00 (9.x:1 CR) and get up to 8-10psi without any issues, if you use the aluminum top end. No reason to drop the CR just to add boost.
                            -Brad-
                            89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                            • bszopi
                              Site Coder
                              • Apr 2000
                              • 9186

                              #29
                              Did a quick search on the site, as I know we've had sand rail people on here before... Here is a nice example of a 3.4 iron head with a turbo : http://60degreev6.com/forum/f96/3-4-...ing-for-t37450
                              -Brad-
                              89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

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                              • ForcedFirebird
                                Live life 3.7mi at a time
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 4555

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bszopi View Post
                                You can put a turbo on a stock 3x00 (9.x:1 CR) and get up to 8-10psi without any issues, if you use the aluminum top end. No reason to drop the CR just to add boost.


                                I agree. Loner's Corsica has 9.1:1 and screams with 12psi
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