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  • project60degree
    • May 2005
    • 85

    #1

    hot intake UIM

    When my car is running for a while i notice that my UIM gets rather hot has anybody ventured into some type of cooling system to cool the UIM
  • geoffinbc
    Iron Head Enthusiast
    • Oct 2003
    • 5831

    #2
    It is the same temp as the rest of the motor. Nothing you can do to cool it
    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
    Because... I am, CANADIAN

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    • SappySE107
      WOT-Tech
      • Oct 2003
      • 13533

      #3
      Well, you can get a cold air intake, which will keep it cool. We witnessed this at the first 60v6 meet. Franz had the only cool plenum of us all due to his cold air intake setup.
      Ben
      60DegreeV6.com
      WOT-Tech.com

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      • Mars
        • Apr 2004
        • 826

        #4
        Phenolic spacers will help.

        My car can idle for 1//2 an hour, and the plenum is still ambient temp.
        11.92 @ 122 MPH 3400 91 Cavalier Z24 Intercooled S/C. -totalled-
        10.56 @ 130 MPH 3900 LZ9 87 IROC Z28 Intercooled GT4088 Turbo

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        • geoffinbc
          Iron Head Enthusiast
          • Oct 2003
          • 5831

          #5
          A spacer between the lower and upper?
          1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
          1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
          Because... I am, CANADIAN

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          • Mars
            • Apr 2004
            • 826

            #6
            yeah.
            11.92 @ 122 MPH 3400 91 Cavalier Z24 Intercooled S/C. -totalled-
            10.56 @ 130 MPH 3900 LZ9 87 IROC Z28 Intercooled GT4088 Turbo

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            • sharkey
              • Jun 2004
              • 2061

              #7
              ive seen a guy route his a/c through his throttle body heater, made the car 3 tenths quicker

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              • SappySE107
                WOT-Tech
                • Oct 2003
                • 13533

                #8
                Id have to see dyno proof of that working. I don't see cooling the TB as having much impact on the intake charge.
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
                WOT-Tech.com

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                • sharkey
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2061

                  #9
                  i can see it working, as not just your tb is getting cooled, but iot will cool the whole intake down. ive ridden in the car with it on and off, deffinitly a good sized difference

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                  • geoffinbc
                    Iron Head Enthusiast
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 5831

                    #10
                    WTF what a bunch of bullshit.

                    AC compressor takes like 10 HP. You will gain 1% in power for a 10*F difference in temperature. So you would need like a 100*F difference in order to make the HP to drop 3/10 and overcome the drag of the AC. This is a very concervitave number. Furthermore the AC compressor will never drop the intake temperature that much.

                    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                    Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                    • torq455
                      If I only had money!!!
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 1615

                      #11
                      you think it should be faster, so it is....
                      Andy

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                      fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                      fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                      62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                      • geoffinbc
                        Iron Head Enthusiast
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 5831

                        #12
                        Mental horsepower.

                        Ricers use it all the time.
                        1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                        1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                        Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                        • SHOoff
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 356

                          #13
                          Originally posted by betterthanyou
                          WTF what a bunch of bullshit.

                          AC compressor takes like 10 HP. You will gain 1% in power for a 10*F difference in temperature. So you would need like a 100*F difference in order to make the HP to drop 3/10 and overcome the drag of the AC. This is a very concervitave number. Furthermore the AC compressor will never drop the intake temperature that much.

                          Well.... what if it was sitting there running with the A/C on, cooling the TB? I dont know exactly how cold it could possibly make the TB, but if it cooled it enouh, you could turn the compressor off right before the run. Not only that, but isnt the clutch supposed to disengage the compressor when you go to WOT?

                          Though, I feel that the car was probably capable of the 3/10ths faster, just got a better run that time. The idea of it just doesnt seem practical to me.
                          97 Cavalier RS
                          3400, Isuzu MK7

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                          • tejohnson
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 359

                            #14
                            Not preaching this, but there are some folks whom swear by thermal barrier coatings to the UIM and LIM....
                            Regards,

                            Todd E. Johnson

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                            • sharkey
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2061

                              #15
                              that is what he did, run the ac in the staging lanes, and shut it off just as he stages. after the run the intake was still nice and cool. you can still call bs, ive seen the slips though. the car ran 16.0s without it, consistantly, and ran 15.7 after cooling the intake.

                              its the same idea as icing an intercooler, or an intercooler shot.

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