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  • farmerz24
    • Feb 2004
    • 361

    #16
    6200-6500 would be my guess.

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    • v6h.o.
      • Oct 2003
      • 1418

      #17
      Originally posted by farmerz24
      6200-6500 would be my guess.
      Yup right on the money. depended on gear I was in but that was the range at the track.


      How many time's have I had to post these pic's on this forum...

      Here goes again:







      Colin
      92 Sunbird GT, 3200 Hybrid 13.99@ 95.22 (2004)
      90 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 10.54 @ 129mph.

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      • torq455
        If I only had money!!!
        • Dec 2003
        • 1615

        #18
        hooooly crap! haha that's bad!!!!!!
        Andy

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        fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
        fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

        62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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        • torq455
          If I only had money!!!
          • Dec 2003
          • 1615

          #19
          after looking at the gears again, the crank sproket looks just fine. how can just the cam sproket go that bad and leave the crank sproked alone?
          Andy

          sigpic

          fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
          fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

          62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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          • Guest

            #20
            Looks like they forgot to harden that cam gear.

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            • AaronGTR
              boost lover
              • Jan 2004
              • 708

              #21
              Woa... that does look pretty bad doesn't it? When I put my new cam in around 52K miles I put a new chain on and damper but not new gears. The gears looked in pretty good shape still, but the chain was stretched out a little more than the new one (but no where near as stretched as that one). That was with a stock cam and about 2+ years with LS1 valve springs. No idea how bad it's gonna get with the new cam and LS6 springs. I don't drive the car a lot but I guess I'll have to pull the cover and check them in a year or so. Just in case we never find a better chain/gear set anywhere, does anyone think a stock set might benefit or live longer if they were cryo treated?
              '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
              '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
              13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
              Gotta love boost!

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              • torq455
                If I only had money!!!
                • Dec 2003
                • 1615

                #22
                i would imagine. the final gears for the after market Vette are cryo treated and i don't think they've had any problems. my dad's got a set of 3.90's in his 03 Z06 and they're awesome! it'd be neat if they did that with the chain.
                Andy

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                fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                • tejohnson
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 359

                  #23
                  Originally posted by v6h.o.
                  Originally posted by farmerz24
                  6200-6500 would be my guess.
                  Yup right on the money. depended on gear I was in but that was the range at the track.

                  How many time's have I had to post these pic's on this forum...
                  Interesting pics I need to get pics of the teeth and put them out. They are not quite "that" bad, but there is some slight scoring on the tips.
                  Regards,

                  Todd E. Johnson

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                  • XLR8ING
                    Too Stupid To Quit!
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 268

                    #24
                    My timing chain and gears looked just like Colins when I took them off. Sloppy as hell, and chewed up teeth. Only difference is mine was a Sealed Power set. Again, driving habits and abuse are likely to blame.
                    And I just picked up my Cloyes roller set last week.
                    Franz

                    1990 Z24-NA 3.1L
                    14.72 @ 92.24 MPH
                    14.89 @ 94.92 MPH

                    The boost is coming....

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                    • SappySE107
                      WOT-Tech
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 13522

                      #25
                      I had the cloyes roller set in my 3.1 and it was sloppy after 50k (or maybe sooner, I changed it out at 50k). Im not sure on clearance, but any chance the 3.4 DOHC setup would fit? It uses a tensioner in there.
                      Ben
                      60DegreeV6.com
                      WOT-Tech.com

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                      • torq455
                        If I only had money!!!
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1615

                        #26
                        Franz!! Can you tell us how many miles you had on that set?

                        I figure 50K on anything moded for high power is pretty darn good. These lil 3.1L engines just don't have the parts like the LS6's. You can't expect them to last 100K.

                        Curtis's double roller is still in and he dosen't have or has had any problems. You know what kind of driving he does!
                        Andy

                        sigpic

                        fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                        fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                        62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                        • TurboZ24
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 299

                          #27
                          I don't usually put a lot of mines on mine, though. I'd guess 3000 miles is the most my car sees a year.
                          Curtis
                          91\' Turbo Z24
                          http://www.turboz24.com

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sappyse107
                            I had the cloyes roller set in my 3.1 and it was sloppy after 50k (or maybe sooner, I changed it out at 50k). Im not sure on clearance, but any chance the 3.4 DOHC setup would fit? It uses a tensioner in there.
                            I can't see why it wouldn't fit. Do you have any pics?

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                            • SappySE107
                              WOT-Tech
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 13522

                              #29
                              I don't know if I have any pictures but I doubt it right now. I swear it looks like the same as the pushrod setup only instead of the guides, it has a tensioner assembly in there. If I can find my old chain and tensioner out in the shed tomorrow, ill take some pics and measurements.
                              Ben
                              60DegreeV6.com
                              WOT-Tech.com

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                              • torq455
                                If I only had money!!!
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 1615

                                #30
                                Yeah Curtis. Those would be 3000 very hard miles!
                                Andy

                                sigpic

                                fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                                fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                                62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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