if i supercharge my 96 3100, can i get any gains?

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  • no_doz
    • Sep 2005
    • 912

    #1

    if i supercharge my 96 3100, can i get any gains?

    if i supercharge my 96 3100, can i get any gains without getting a tuner if i run like 4 psi of boost, or will my car just run like crap?
  • Syn
    The Master Piece
    • Oct 2005
    • 599

    #2
    Re: if i supercharge my 96 3100, can i get any gains?

    Originally posted by no_doz
    if i supercharge my 96 3100, can i get any gains without getting a tuner if i run like 4 psi of boost, or will my car just run like crap?

    if you don't wanna tune it then its stupid to waste that much money on a s/c. do it right the first time or go home. why waste money and blow ur engine???
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    • no_doz
      • Sep 2005
      • 912

      #3
      haha u STILL didnt answer my question. the reason i was asking this was to see if i could hook the supercharger up, maybe run it once, then when i got the money-get a megasquirt II setup to make it run right (the car is gonna do a LOT of sitting until may 9th, & is probably going to see one run, which will be when i show my friend what a 3100 with a couple of mods can do lol). im assuming by your reaction that it wouldnt work out whatsoever without the tune up? also is there anyone in ohio that i could just take it to to have it tuned, or would that be a fortune?

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      • Syn
        The Master Piece
        • Oct 2005
        • 599

        #4
        Originally posted by no_doz
        haha u STILL didnt answer my question. the reason i was asking this was to see if i could hook the supercharger up, maybe run it once, then when i got the money-get a megasquirt II setup to make it run right (the car is gonna do a LOT of sitting until may 9th, & is probably going to see one run, which will be when i show my friend what a 3100 with a couple of mods can do lol). im assuming by your reaction that it wouldnt work out whatsoever without the tune up? also is there anyone in ohio that i could just take it to to have it tuned, or would that be a fortune?
        if your going to be running the ms then learn to tune it idk i have only been 2 places in ohio and don't plan on going anywhere else ever. thats cedar point and my automotive college.

        i am sure you could run it at low boost but get some kinda a/f gauge preferably a wideband to make sure your not running lean, cause i would guess your gonna keep the fuel system stock until you get everything else
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        • gboogie99
          they still can't catch me
          • Nov 2005
          • 348

          #5
          you'll see gains. probably not a lot because its not tuned and you arent adding more fuel, but simply because you are forcing more air in. Like a fancy expensive new air intake, basically. IMO you might come out safer just waiting until you have all the parts in hand.

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          • no_doz
            • Sep 2005
            • 912

            #6
            thats the idea, because ill have the money for either the supercharger or the megasquirt pretty soon, but not enough for both (atleast for a while), do you guys think that would work for like 1 day of running it (not even a whole day)? also i live in ohio, & where do you go to college, northwestern?

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            • Dave
              • Nov 2003
              • 222

              #7
              You'd be better off putting the Megasquirt on there FIRST before you put a supercharger on it. Putting the megasquirt on their first will give you time to figure out how to tune it, and how to make all the adjustments you wanna make - then you can put the supercharger on there. Doing it in the reverse order could end up costing you a lot more money.

              But, to answer your question, if you put the supercharger on there first, running very low boost (1 - 3 lbs) you would probably see a small gain in power - but you'd still have a HIGH risk of damage..

              --Dave.
              Dave ... Dave.45 ... DaveFromColorado ... it\'s all me.

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              • no_doz
                • Sep 2005
                • 912

                #8
                will i get any gains just by hooking the megasquirt kit-up?

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                • Manitcor
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 573

                  #9
                  theres this new invention in the banking world. Its called a "savings account". This type of account allows you to put away money with intrest untill you deiced to take it out and use it. Perhaps for a proper setup for your car.

                  1995 Monte Carlo LS
                  3400 SFI 60v6
                  FFP Underdrive Pulley, S&S Headers, LSD, ODBII Swap, DHP

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                  • Dave
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 222

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Manitcor
                    theres this new invention in the banking world. Its called a "savings account". This type of account allows you to put away money with intrest untill you deiced to take it out and use it. Perhaps for a proper setup for your car.
                    I'd totally have to agree with you on this one.

                    --Dave.
                    Dave ... Dave.45 ... DaveFromColorado ... it\'s all me.

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                    • Syn
                      The Master Piece
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 599

                      #11
                      Originally posted by no_doz
                      will i get any gains just by hooking the megasquirt kit-up?
                      possibly but i doubt it


                      yes i goto northwestern, and i hate all these hicks down here with there stupid diesels with smoke stacks
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                      • SappySE107
                        WOT-Tech
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 13496

                        #12
                        If you have a 96, why not get a DHP to tune your stock computer? Does a 96 have a MAF sensor? If so, then that would be the easiest way to be able to tune.

                        Do not install a supercharger without the ability to tune when you an afford the tuner first. Otherwise you likely wont have anything to tune later.
                        Ben
                        60DegreeV6.com
                        WOT-Tech.com

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                        • no_doz
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 912

                          #13
                          where is dhp located at & how much do they usually charge to tune a stock computer-such as if i set up that supercharger & took it to them for tuning? also i went up & toured northwestern & i saw all of those diesels, along with one that said "id rather be Cummin than Strokin" haha, oh and a couple of crappy looking cars with half a body kit that wasnt painted & a couple nice rims/couple not so nice rims lol.

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                          • Syn
                            The Master Piece
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 599

                            #14
                            Originally posted by no_doz
                            where is dhp located at & how much do they usually charge to tune a stock computer-such as if i set up that supercharger & took it to them for tuning? also i went up & toured northwestern & i saw all of those diesels, along with one that said "id rather be Cummin than Strokin" haha, oh and a couple of crappy looking cars with half a body kit that wasnt painted & a couple nice rims/couple not so nice rims lol.
                            yeah all the cars there are gay and slow except a few, one kid who lives by me back home has a turbo charger that runs 11's, and a few f-body's that are qwick. also a kid on here goes there that has a turbo grand prix
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