My 89 Camaro Project

[Superdave]

How are you board?

It happens... My car has been at the shop for a week getting the rear end replaced after they messed it up last month. A few mis-adjustments by the installer turned my Richmond 3.73's into a pile of shavings.

[SappySE107]

Looks like a cow bell:P

[torq455]

How are you board?

[Superdave]

So, i got bored this morning and cut out a form for a fiberglass old school scoop... Probably won't use it but i thought it might be worth posting for a few laughs...

[pocket-rocket]

it has 6 individual butterflies one for each runner. wonder how much work it would take to mod this to work on a 3x00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-TAURUS-SHO-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-BUTTERFLY-THROTTLE-PLATES-/390336369534?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae1dc537e

i know that isn't the lower just used it to describe.

Interesting... You certainly can't beat the price, either.

[geldartb]

The old (mid 90s) Ford Taurus SHO cars had them.

it has 6 individual butterflies one for each runner. wonder how much work it would take to mod this to work on a 3x00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-TAURUS-SHO-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-BUTTERFLY-THROTTLE-PLATES-/390336369534?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae1dc537e

i know that isn't the lower just used it to describe.

[pocket-rocket]

OK, I was just thinking about it, It seems flow would be increased be a shared intake, since the "mass" of the air is moving constantly in, diverted to each valve as it opens. ITB seems it has no flow until valve opens, then air is pulled in, then when the valve closes, the incoming airstream would in effect hit a brick wall and be reflected back out, causing unwanted turbulence. From what I understand, long intake runners helps low end torque, while short help high rpm power. Is there a way to fabricate a long intake that has a valve to close at higher RPM's to increase power over the entire RPM range?

I know I am out of my league on this one, but it seems to make sense to me somehow

The old (mid 90s) Ford Taurus SHO cars had them.

[2.8/3400 1985 Camaro]

Yes there are variable intake manifolds out there, some factory cars have them, fabricating one would be a pretty big undertaking though. Btw as far as squeezing more power out of that beast, throw some titanium rods at it, electric PS pump if you aren't manual steering, and an electric WP, I think I recall hearing mezierres are good for frequent use. As much as people hype about UDPs you would think there would be more aluminum pulleys, and electric accessories.

[Z3500]

OK, I was just thinking about it, It seems flow would be increased be a shared intake, since the "mass" of the air is moving constantly in, diverted to each valve as it opens. ITB seems it has no flow until valve opens, then air is pulled in, then when the valve closes, the incoming airstream would in effect hit a brick wall and be reflected back out, causing unwanted turbulence. From what I understand, long intake runners helps low end torque, while short help high rpm power. Is there a way to fabricate a long intake that has a valve to close at higher RPM's to increase power over the entire RPM range?

I know I am out of my league on this one, but it seems to make sense to me somehow

[Z3500]

That thing sounds bad as hell, I like it!!

[ForcedFirebird]

...or a different "LIM". The size of those TB's might need to be closer to the head. Runner length is extremely important on ITB's. There's a few threads at ST about it.

[SappySE107]

sounds great once it gets to higher RPM. Tuning has gotta be a bitch with those. Id love to see how the alpha n works on it.

[Superdave]

video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxewiTeUMlk

[Superdave]

It's similar, but it's like apples to oranges.. The camaro hooks up much better than the Z24 did but it's not quite as fun with the auto trans.

[Alxsmt]

does it feel faster than the z24? I really wanna see what this thing can do when you get it sorted out