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Oh, the direct injection GM and Ford are already using? Figures, another good idea reverse engineered over seas to be re-sold to the original designers. Graduated from HS in 07, lol, my oldest child was already 10.
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All I can say is his personality on here will not allow me to take him seriously on anything he says without backing it up with presentable facts. You have to admit, he did act very immature, hence his banning. With an attitude like that, I wouldn't care if he graduated from Harvard and has a masters at 21 and designs top secret stuff for the government.Originally posted by HOYS View PostI'm not going to go into Dave's personal life on the internet, but he had graduated from The University Of Dayton and works for Honda in their Powertrain department. His side job is working for ForcedFab building drift cars. ForcedFab shares a building with MMS.
Who uses MySpace anymore Bszopi? C'mon
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I've never used it, but according to his page, he was last on it 2 days ago. So, I guess he does. ??
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I'm not going to go into Dave's personal life on the internet, but he had graduated from The University Of Dayton and works for Honda in their Powertrain department. His side job is working for ForcedFab building drift cars. ForcedFab shares a building with MMS.Originally posted by bszopi View PostHe does seem pretty cool. I mean, check out his MySpace blurb...
I am confused about his job status, though. To quote his original post...
So, does this mean that Honda of America shares a building with MMS? And Honda of America works on import turbo applications? And now, you say his focus is on direct injection in new Honda engines. Oh yeah, and according to his MySpace page, he makes over $250k/yr. Ok, so he just graduated from college (grad from HS in 2007), and right out of college is making a quarter of a million dollars working for Honda, out of a shop shared with MMS.
Really...?
Who uses MySpace anymore Bszopi? C'mon
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He does seem pretty cool. I mean, check out his MySpace blurb...
I am confused about his job status, though. To quote his original post...About me:
I'm Dave.I'm a Mechanical Engineering Student at UD. I like vagina, boobs, and other womanly parts. Hit me up if you are DTF. "MSG is Chineese Jackass!"
So, does this mean that Honda of America shares a building with MMS? And Honda of America works on import turbo applications? And now, you say his focus is on direct injection in new Honda engines. Oh yeah, and according to his MySpace page, he makes over $250k/yr. Ok, so he just graduated from college (grad from HS in 2007), and right out of college is making a quarter of a million dollars working for Honda, out of a shop shared with MMS.I do work with the shop the MMS shares a building with. We mainly work on import turbo applications. I'm a Mechanical Engineer for Honda of America.
Really...?
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No, not enough about him.Originally posted by AaronGTR View PostNot really, it doesn't. I'm not impressed just because people have degrees. Most colleges will give a degree to anyone who pays their tuition these days. Doesn't mean they got A's or that they are smart, or even know what they are talking about. That guy didn't talk like engineer, using logic and giving examples based on known principles. He talked like a 16 y.o. ricer with a bad attitude and a chip on his shoulder. If that's the kind of engineer Honda is hiring these days, it's no wonder I'm not impressed with them, and I'm not impressed with Milzy for hiring him either.
But enough about him... back to the interesting technical discussion.
First, he does NOT work for Milzy. I think he stated that clearly enough. Dave is...for a lack of better words...his own man :P
I guess you shouldn't buy any new Honda with direct injection...because that is Dave's focus at Honda.
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Originally posted by HOYSI've seen his degree if that helps any
Not really, it doesn't. I'm not impressed just because people have degrees. Most colleges will give a degree to anyone who pays their tuition these days. Doesn't mean they got A's or that they are smart, or even know what they are talking about. That guy didn't talk like engineer, using logic and giving examples based on known principles. He talked like a 16 y.o. ricer with a bad attitude and a chip on his shoulder. If that's the kind of engineer Honda is hiring these days, it's no wonder I'm not impressed with them, and I'm not impressed with Milzy for hiring him either.
But enough about him... back to the interesting technical discussion.
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Lol, pretty much, if I put mms heads on my 2700 lb corsica, and then put wot tech heads on something newer and heavier, probably 3k+, that's going to make a difference, as can suspension type, bushings, tires, inflation of tires, weight of driver, transmission type, condition of transmission, engine mileage and condition, rim size and weight etc etc. Unless you ran the same car, on the same day, on the same track you wouldn't get accurate results, and even if you did that they would still have uncontrolled variables mucking things up.
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He also forgot that power to weight ratios come in to play, as do chassis prep and setup since you can have a more powerful engine, but a poorly set up car and loose a race you should have won if you had set your chassis up correctly. Since this was a discussion on head porting, his "examples" basically meant nothing since power vs power is what we are after here, so it goes back to flow testing, engine and chassis dynos, not the drag strip. But, as an engineer, he knew that...Originally posted by 2.8/3400 1985 Camaro View PostI like how the guy that got banned and was supposedly an engineer, thinks running 2 entirely different cars in two entirely different areas, possibly at different times of the year is an accurate way to compare port work..I LOLed IRL.
1/4 times are all that matters when you are arguing with your buddy his mustang vs your camaro, when it comes to something like who's porting is better, its all about the dyno. Anyone smart enough to be an engineer(car related or not) and know the first thing about car modifying would know this. Guess he skipped the day of science class where they talked about controls, and variables and such that affect test results.
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I like how the guy that got banned and was supposedly an engineer, thinks running 2 entirely different cars in two entirely different areas, possibly at different times of the year is an accurate way to compare port work..I LOLed IRL.
1/4 times are all that matters when you are arguing with your buddy his mustang vs your camaro, when it comes to something like who's porting is better, its all about the dyno. Anyone smart enough to be an engineer(car related or not) and know the first thing about car modifying would know this. Guess he skipped the day of science class where they talked about controls, and variables and such that affect test results.
And for the record I am impartial to this debate, I am not at all familiar with mms and only a little with ben. I am just curious who's porting would perform more, from what people are saying I get the impression ben's is, but I don't know enough about MMS to fairly speculate on it, without dyno #s from the same engine, or flow #s to compare there's no knowing for sure.
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Fixed it for you....Originally posted by SappySE107 View PostSeems easier to make an issue of me doing my job on the site and banning the troll than to tell me which is better for exhaust ports, larger, or better flow. The larger exit doesn't flow more, so to tell me MMS choses flow over velocity is dead wrong. He choses what looks good to noobs over what performs better. 228 whp from his stage 3 setup and my stage 2 made 222, with RSM manifolds. Cam selection goes in my favor though, as does porting. But lets see an MMS turbo cam get the same results my street/strip turbo cam has.
This thread has:
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No Flow Numbers From MMS
No Representation from MMS Employees
And by the way "banning" and "silencing" someone are two very different things in my opinion.
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Seems easier to make an issue of me doing my job on the site and banning the troll than to tell me which is better for exhaust ports, larger, or better flow. The larger exit doesn't flow more, so to tell me MMS choses flow over velocity is dead wrong. He choses what looks good to noobs over what performs better. 228 whp from his stage 3 setup and my stage 2 made 222, with RSM manifolds. Cam selection goes in my favor though, as does porting. But lets see an MMS turbo cam get the same results my street/strip turbo cam has.
This thread is missing:
MMS Flow numbers
MMS Employees
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