cam shaft swap help

[Rootie524]

ok i fixed the fuel issue..now on to a whole new set of problems. i went to start it..it does start..it does its thing but stalls if i dont give it gas..it seems to idle around 1k and lower like it should and it has the slight lope that wot said it would. but there is a crazy amount of pings and pongs and clicks and i dont know what it is but it cant be good. see the attached video..

thinking its either timing, oil pump drive (idk why but its possible), or the valve springs and what not got screwed up..i really have no idea and i just want to drive my car again..and also when i do hit the gas it flies up in RPMs and stays there on its own for quite some time. i have no control over the gas pedal basically. (i now have a toyota..lol) ask me any other questions that will help you help me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7o487P8nic

help me...

[pocket-rocket]

Strange... Out of all of the rail lines I've pulled off the o-ring was only about 3/8" total diameter and went on the end of a specially flared section (that ends basically right there where his pic shows, you just don't see the very end, but it's *right* there) I've highlighted in yellow. I'm not arguing here (you know this), I've just never seen one of those goofy looking blocks on the end of a line like that like you have there.

[SappySE107]

Injector o ring is smaller.

[pocket-rocket]

Pretty sure I got mine from AutoZone, or some place similar. It might even be similar to an injector o-ring, which they should be able to pull up.

I believe injector o-rings are a bit thicker than the o-ring on that fuel line.

[WrathOfSocrus]

ACDELCO Part # 217461

That's from rock auto under fuel rail o-ring kit

[bszopi]

Pretty sure I got mine from AutoZone, or some place similar. It might even be similar to an injector o-ring, which they should be able to pull up.

[Rootie524]

where can i get this? autozone was clueless..and i need it like super rushed delivery asap.

[SappySE107]

Yes, there needs to be an o ring.

[Rootie524]

ok..so..it was all back together today..and im all ready to start it..i turn the key two clicks to prime the fuel pump and i hear the splatter of liquid on my garage floor. a few seconds go by and the smell of gas fill the air. as pissed as i could be i take off my throttle body and UIM to get a good look at the fuel rail and have someone turn the key while i see where the leak is. It is coming from around the bolt on the fuel inlet hose (pictured below).

when i took the engine apart..that hose was stuck pretty good in the engine so me and my helper had to pull them apart..so idk if there was an o-ring in there or not. if there was i dont know it cuz it would have flew somewhere. so my question is why does it leak..does it need a o-ring or do i need a new fuel inlet pipe cuz somehow i messed mine up?! im so pissed. i coould have had my car back up and running tonight if it werent for this.

and the leak is not coming from where the bolt meets the fuel rail, it's coming from the very outter end of the bolt and the gap in between that and the pipe itself. hard to explain unless you've studied this pretty well before.

[siKKa]

yes that fine... think of how many times its turns before your car starts.

[Rootie524]

yeah i did it with a breaker bar on the camshaft bolt with all the timing chain and sprockets set. i would say it had a total of 5 full but slow rotations so im guessing it should be ok.

[ForcedFirebird]

As long as it didn't run like that, you will be fine. Think about how many times and engine has to be rotated to install all the cam bolts, bearings, came etc. All those parts were soaked in oil when you rotated things.

[60dgrzbelow0]

When you say you "turned the engine over"...do you mean by hand/wrench...or by starting and running the motor? Hand turning or even a few cranks probably won't harm most engines... but all engines have rotating parts that literally are kept apart by oil films under very high pressure ...almost floating on the slick oil in this way...so running an engine ...even at idle... with no oil pressure might prove a disaster...

[Rootie524]

well that's good news, i was worried about that. one more thing i am worried about. obviously to do what i did, i had to drain the oil. i turned the engine while there was no oil in it. so is it possible my pistons scraped up the wall theyre in? im assuming alot of oil residue remained so it should be fine?

[1988GTU]

It will enter the combustion chamber after swirling around a bit and most likely burn up or flow out the exhaust ports. Probably could catch most of it out the tail pipe with a bucket tilted over the pipe upon start up.