300HP+

[GRANDFURY]

Sorry I just found thier site and now it says it is only a 80 hp gain. I think it is just rsmracing.com

[ikessky]

What kind of kit? What does it include?

[Manitcor]

its a CSC kit, about $4400 us, its been around awhile, from what I hear its 10psi and works well if they can get you the right parts in time,

[ikessky]

80HP for 4G's???

[GRANDFURY]

Kinda expensive. It comes with a vortec supercharger all the pulleys oil lines and shit and it comes with a k&n cone filter system and an exhaust system I'm pretty sure it is full exhaust and air intake, not sure if you get a chip too. You should check the site out man. www.rsmracing.com Go to grand am and you'll see all the mods you can get. Expensive thought and I've heard RSM can be pricks.

[ikessky]

Well, it's good to know that there are other options out there, but I still think it will be cheaper for me to setup a turbo system.

[Manitcor]

sure would you could be a good turbo kit with some trips to the junkyard and doing most of the work yourself for about $2000

[ikessky]

I have access to pretty much all the equipment that I need and my brother's father-in-law is a machinist by trade. I'm pretty sure that I can get this whole thing done for a pretty decent price! Not free, but definitely better than $4700!

[zyvx]

a small mod to me is something similar to a CAI. Around that price. How much is all of that that you just listed? Individually please.

[ikessky]

Holy geez..........

Porting the upper and lower intake can be done at home (if you have the skill). Taking it in some place will vary the price due to your location, who does the work, etc.

Ported heads are the same thing. Buying a set from some of the places that currently offer them is ridiculous. Expect to pay anywhere from $500-$1500 for an assembled set.

A 62mm throttle body will run you around $200 with an additional core charge of $100 or so (again, depending on where you go to get this). Keep in mind that if you get a bigger throttle body you will need to have the upper and lower intakes ported to see any gains.

Exhaust really depends on what you get. Headers will be $350+ for an uncoated set. Even then you will need to get them modified for your application unless you drive a 99+ GA.

Reprogrammed computer will run you $200+ and you have to send it to ASE or DHP to have it done.

So there you have it. For the porting work, I would contact some of your local places and see what they would charge you for the work. Sorry I don't have exact numbers for you, but it does vary depending on where you go, what you do, etc.

[bszopi]

The RSM kit is even more ridiculous now... It is $5400 USD and it requires you to leave the car at their shop in Toronto for 6-8 weeks so that they can do the "custom" installation. So, not only do you have to shell out $5400, you also have to be without your car for 2 months AFTER you drive it up to Canada.

[ikessky]

Boy, sounds like a great deal. I think I'll go for it!

BTW, what is so "custom" about it?

[zyvx]

thanks for the help. I am prolly going to go to the place that installed my CAI and see what they charge for that porting. Weren't you guys just talking about not getting gains from a bigger TB?

[ikessky]

Yeah, but that was with a forced induction setup. You should see a gain with a NA engine.

[2bzbat]

stroker crank

does anyone make stroker cranks for the 3.1?...and if so what displacement does it yield?

93 Lumina Euro 3.1 (this is a first gen engine, right?)