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  • Lilchief
    • May 2007
    • 87

    #1

    3500 hp

    Just wanting to get an idea of several senerios. How hp/tq could you get with a stock 3500 non vvt and a single cam change? Or cam change and bigger TB, headers? And lastly Head work, street/strip mild porting bigger springs streetable big cam bigger TB headers port matching ?
    Thanks Rick
  • mfuller
    Mr. Common Sense
    • Nov 2003
    • 374

    #2
    It is pretty well documented that a stock 3500 with a big cam mild porting and headers can make solid 300 hp (see Superdave's old 3500 Cavy). But you need to remember that the potential power from a cam change can be heavily dependent on supporting mods; just throwing a large cam in an otherwise stock engine can actually reduce power.


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    2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
    3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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    • mfuller
      Mr. Common Sense
      • Nov 2003
      • 374

      #3
      I forgot to add that proper tuning is just as if not more important than the hard parts you throw at a motor.


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      Matt
      2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
      3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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      • SappySE107
        WOT-Tech
        • Oct 2003
        • 13522

        #4
        stock engine. street cam 12 hp, street/strip cam 25 hp, strip cam 31 hp, race cam 40hp.
        Ben
        60DegreeV6.com
        WOT-Tech.com

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        • ericjon262
          build it.
          • Jan 2010
          • 2218

          #5
          Originally posted by SappySE107 View Post
          stock engine. street cam 12 hp, street/strip cam 25 hp, strip cam 31 hp, race cam 40hp.
          real dyno numbers or desktop dyno?
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          • Superdave
            Been there, Built that.
            • Sep 2004
            • 5850

            #6
            Considering what i've gotten out of stock 3500's on the dyno, Ben is about right. Supporting mods will play a huge role though.


            my 5 speed Cavalier put down 275 to the wheels with a ported top end, custom ground cam and longtubes. That's a little over 300 @ the crank. Same engine with a little more work and ITB's put down 263 WHP with an auto trans, that's roughly 330 HP on a rough tune.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • robert 1980
              • Aug 2009
              • 302

              #7
              Stop talking before i buy a 3500=)

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              • NateD4
                • Mar 2011
                • 576

                #8
                I wonder what they do if you wind them to 8500 RPM

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                • ericjon262
                  build it.
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2218

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NateD4 View Post
                  I wonder what they do if you wind them to 8500 RPM

                  Probably throw a rod....
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                  • Superdave
                    Been there, Built that.
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 5850

                    #10
                    Mine didn't... /oops


                    stock rods are good for 7K ish, i push mine there often.
                    Past Builds;
                    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                    Current Project;
                    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                    • NateD4
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 576

                      #11
                      I think I can get to 8K without losing a rod.

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                      • Superdave
                        Been there, Built that.
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 5850

                        #12
                        Go for it.. lol
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • pocket-rocket
                          Because stock sucks...
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 6252

                          #13
                          Don't forget to record it.

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