96 Beretta Project

[3400-95-Modified]

Internal crank trigger installed.

[3400-95-Modified]

Sounds pretty forged to me. Stock 3.1 crank to left.

[ericjon262]

basically an anti-stick coating for the interior walls of the engine? neat.

I'm not sure I would want to use anything like that though.... seems like it might cause heat distribution issues? speaking out of my ass though, for all I know the oil doesn't absorb/equalize the temperature throughout the engine significantly enough to matter.

the oil will really only be cooling the moving parts it's in contact with, mainly the bearings and cam lobes. the parts that would get the gyptal aren't really subject to enough temperature difference for it to matter. I would bet getting the oil back to the sump would be better as the difference in temperature between the inside and outside of the sump would be several times greater than the block walls.

[3400-95-Modified]

Yeah it's nothing new really, Just wondering if anyone has ever done it.

[robertisaar]

basically an anti-stick coating for the interior walls of the engine? neat.

I'm not sure I would want to use anything like that though.... seems like it might cause heat distribution issues? speaking out of my ass though, for all I know the oil doesn't absorb/equalize the temperature throughout the engine significantly enough to matter.

[ericjon262]

no opinion, but I thought this was hilarious!

Note - Can may get dented during shipping. This does not impact the functionality of the product

[3400-95-Modified]

Not really looking to have to re-cut all the piston ring grooves... It would probably be wiser for me to approach a ring company and request custom 94mm bore rings and give them the sizes they need for the pistons I have. Then I can also get the specific material I want as well.

on another note...

Opinions on this stuff?

http://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-enamel-set.html

[ericjon262]

Do any of those rings actually fit the stock 3500 pistons? I didn't see anything.

I'm not sure of the ring thicknesses, but those rings are for several bore sizes 94mm+ if the ring lands are too small, it wouldn't be impossible to chuck them in a lathe and make them bigger, assuming they don't need to be massively bigger, how much cheaper that would be compared to custom pistons? not really sure.

[3400-95-Modified]

That was my next question on that only because I haven't been able to go out in the garage and pull a piston yet, but what is the oil ring size? There are two different options on rock auto and I'm wondering if the sealed power version is made to only fit their aftermarket piston, I've seen them do that before.

[SappySE107]

Do any of those rings actually fit the stock 3500 pistons? I didn't see anything.

[ericjon262]

ring options are out there through summit racing. as far as bearings go, I'd worry more about oil and filters, big thing with them is making sure all the clearances are correct.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/department/engines-components/section/pistons-piston-rings/part-type/piston-rings?PageSize=100&N=4294949512%2B4294914195%2B4294882362%2B4294884174%2B4294803644%2B4294803701%2B4294803700%2B4294803948

[3400-95-Modified]

So serious question here... With the lack of performance options for the 3500 what would you go with? Aftermarket replacement bearings and rings or go OEM GM stuff? I've been running clevite stuff on the pink car rod bearing wise, they are factory 04 mains and factory rings and pistons.

[3400-95-Modified]

I guess you could say I'm disappointed at the lack of aftermarket bearing wise and rings since those will be the two most important things in my setup with the nitrous.

May go GM all the way and just the wide cam bearings.

[ericjon262]

Those are probably two of the things I don't plan on changing due to the costs, I'm already switching mostly for the slight bump into the 10:1 ratio area vs my current low 9s. If I feel I don't like this result I'll probably take my original 3400 block and forge the bottom end with what's out there and put it in the 11s for CR or just high 10s

after I'm "done" with this LX9, I'm going Gen IV or High Feature.

[3400-95-Modified]

Those are probably two of the things I don't plan on changing due to the costs, I'm already switching mostly for the slight bump into the 10:1 ratio area vs my current low 9s. If I feel I don't like this result I'll probably take my original 3400 block and forge the bottom end with what's out there and put it in the 11s for CR or just high 10s

Or my other option is change the cam.