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  • sil
    4T60-E killa
    • Nov 2004
    • 723

    #31
    lol @ el_diablo.. aww cmon be nice to him everyones a noob at 1 time :P

    tdunk, you may not think that learning theory off a forum is the best route to go and you prolly want hands on with the project
    but when you learn the theory of your motor from the net
    when you go to work on your car it will be much easier as you will understand what things are for and how they work
    you will also learn what are good modifications that work with other modifications
    you will be able to make an educated decision on what you should do to your motor
    your building a plan by learning

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    • El_Diablo
      STFUniversity
      • Dec 2005
      • 917

      #32
      trust me, i am being nice.... pm sent

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      • Tdunk
        • Dec 2006
        • 94

        #33
        yea i know but i suppose since it took me awhile to figure out how to install everything the first time i havent wanted to change it lol and yea i'm a noob i'm 17 and in an IT field. Not automotive so anything i learn is from this forum basically. Plus you are correct i want hands on because no matter what i learn here. If i do the engine swap i will know what stuff is and what it does but that doesnt guarantee that i will be able to do it. The CAI for example i read the site and did it accordingly. There were some things missing and basically i had to do the thing myself, but thats just an intake. Taking apart an engine is completely different and much more complicated. So sorry if i seem a little nieve over this but still. Look at it from a 17 year old noobs point of view diablo.

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        • SappySE107
          WOT-Tech
          • Oct 2003
          • 13532

          #34
          You would be surprised how many of us were into computers at 17 and just learning about cars. Ok...at least 1:P
          Ben
          60DegreeV6.com
          WOT-Tech.com

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          • bszopi
            Site Coder
            • Apr 2000
            • 9191

            #35
            I got spoiled.... I helped with my first car teardown and rebuilt at 12. At 17, I rebuilt a 400 SBC to replace the 307 in my 73 Chevelle. And at 21, I was operating a nuclear reactor...
            -Brad-
            89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

            Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blog

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            • fivepointhustla
              I prefer fast & reliable
              • May 2004
              • 181

              #36
              Sheeeeeeeeeeeet, I'm 27 and have only rebuilt 1 motor and swapped 3 in my fiero, the 1st 2 were supposed to be good but knocked like hell. My girlfriends little brother taught me. I started when I was 22-23. Now I can do anything from oil pump to valve springs and tranny swaps to water pumps. The thing I like to do now is use SBC parts on 60V6s and design custom parts that really matter. I always say if you show me once I can do it twice.

              The easiest way to learn about motors is to buy a cheap motor out the paper so you can tear it apart. i bought a 307 for $50 and ripped it a part. I then understood what did what and why I had to get stronger parts for more power. Don't think it was a waste because I sold all the parts to the recycler. They pay by the pound and early American motors aren't that light, i got my money and some gas back...well worth it. V8s are usually the cheapest, find one that is knocking or blown.



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              • Tdunk
                • Dec 2006
                • 94

                #37
                Hmm can we swap in the 3400 DOHC? or the 3600 DOHC. I havent seen any posts on swapping those only the 3400 or 3400 with
                3500 top end.

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                • bszopi
                  Site Coder
                  • Apr 2000
                  • 9191

                  #38
                  3.4 DOHC is too big to fit in the bay of a Malibu. 3.6 DOHC would require probably close to every bit of the electrical system from the donor vehicle and a ton of custom work, so look to spending I would say well over $6k (probably closer to $10k). And the fitment might again be an issue.
                  -Brad-
                  89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

                  Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blog

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                  • Tdunk
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 94

                    #39
                    ow well i guess i'll stick with the 3400. I printed out 30 pages on the install and have been looking over it. There are some major complications that i'm going to have to figure out. Such as no pully stud something about cutting one off ect..... Then i dont know this guide was made for older models then my bu and i'm pretty sure my sensors will go onto the 3400 but i'm not positive. The alternator and belt and hopefully the transmission will match to because mine wasnt on the list. That and it looks like i may have alot of sensor imcompatabilities. This doesnt seem as easy as i first thought.
                    Last edited by Tdunk; 01-11-2007, 11:26 AM.

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                    • El_Diablo
                      STFUniversity
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 917

                      #40
                      you have an 01... its pretty much a direct swap except for the injectors


                      where did you get this swap info? im guessing it was for a j-body? it will fit no problems for a malibu though, just get a 00+ 3400

                      everything that will ever be done in or on a car is a process... just simple steps that lead you to a completed assembly, all you have to know is what order to do those steps, with that, you could build a land speed car

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                      • bszopi
                        Site Coder
                        • Apr 2000
                        • 9191

                        #41
                        The 3400 swap guide (from 3400swap.com) is based off of upgrading from an old-style (99 and older) 3100 to a 3400. In 2000, the 3100 and 3400 shared basically everything except their bore, so as diablo said, it should basically a direct bolt-in.
                        -Brad-
                        89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power

                        Follow the build -> http://www.3x00swap.com/index.php?page=mustang-blog

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                        • Tdunk
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 94

                          #42
                          Sooo.... does anyone have a guide for the list of what the order to uninstall and reinstall is. I'd like to look at it if there is one.

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                          • El_Diablo
                            STFUniversity
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 917

                            #43
                            no but you need a hoist, coolent and oil aswell as any gaskets from any disassembly you might do... the engine will lift right out though (best to drill 1/8" holes in the hood hinges through the underside of the hood for fitment and remove the hood) after you get everything disconnect though i would recomend changin hoses, your belt... anything thats easy access

                            you should be able to leave the PS pump hooked up aswell as the A/C if your careful... would prolly be easier to just have someone drian it first and recharge it when your done though

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                            • gectek
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1472

                              #44
                              and why were u looking to spend so much on a trans....who where u getting this trans from?

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                              • El_Diablo
                                STFUniversity
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 917

                                #45
                                Mark, owner of MP Racing, hes still in the R&D stages and hasn't even set a price range yet

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