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  • SappySE107
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    Looks like a good article topic to me.

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  • geldartb
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    it could have been something from when it first went together. you remember how it sounded. something wasnt cool but ill never know what that was.
    iirc every time i had the side cover off which was two or three time all the dots got lined up and i started with the 99 stuff from the beginning. even the 05 stuff that was on there only had something like 8k on it.

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    Yeah, well with those differences I didn't think you would have touched unless you were off a tooth or two on your timing at one point... Or your chain is as stretched as mine, but I know that's not true. and 7* duration is a good amount.

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  • geldartb
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    the only one where you have more duration than me is the exhaust and thats only 7 more. same with your lift but thats 53 more than my exhaust.

    227 233 .050 dur 515 515 lift 112 lsa
    216/240 .050 dur .517/.568 lift 112LSA

    dont ask me how it was done. its like a little kiss nothing to write home about and the valve was fine not even damaged. but those heads are sitting on the shelf now.

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    How in the hell did you get dimples in your pistons? you have less duration and lift than I do...

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  • geldartb
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    eh i got some dimples in my pistons too. didnt hurt the valves and im pretty sure that was when i had the 3400 heads on there since i havent had the 3500 heads off since i put them on.

    wonder how my chain looks. its the 99 set but i didnt cryo treat it. would there be any advantage of cryo treating my lifters.

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    Yeah I know... Chain I was a little late on, but in the end that didn't cause any issues really... just dimples in my pistons...

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  • geldartb
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    haha yeah i remember the sweet and wet trip back from NY.

    i want to at least look at the cam bearings on mine. if the rest of your bearings look that good and you put a lot more miles on your car than i did with a cam in there so at this point im not going to worry about it right now.

    the sealed power should last longer than that regardless whether there is a hotter than stock cam in there. at least your finding this crap before it causes problems.

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    This is what worry's me... Now I understand you can install bearings wrong, but this wouldn't happen... they would get worn in odd spots, and stuff like that OR spin... I can't see any good reason for this to have happened. Poor oiling would have caused issue elsewhere too... But look at my current engine, the rest of my bearings that are stock are beautiful... so I'm at a loss of what is up with sealed power cam bearings.

    I'm pissed because I replaced them with the same thing when I rebuilt this... not knowing that could happen again.

    Originally posted by geldartb View Post
    eww shitty bearings FTL that bearing looks nasty. hows the cam look Jon.

    hmm well since mine are stock they might have half a chance then. im gonna wait till sometime in feb and take a peek at them.
    Cam is fine, its much harder than the bearing and that's the point... that wears and the cam doesn't.

    And the second pic is the 3400 that's in red... the one you followed home from NY with a blown headgasket... That was when I rebuilt it to replace the hybrid and be my daily again.

    When I found my current pinky bearings to look like this, I knew I'd seen that somewhere before... I actually thought it was when I had my Milzy cam in this engine, but it turns out I saw this on my stock setup that used the same brand bearings.
    Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 01-29-2010, 02:18 PM.

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  • geldartb
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    eww shitty bearings FTL that bearing looks nasty. hows the cam look Jon.

    hmm well since mine are stock they might have half a chance then. im gonna wait till sometime in feb and take a peek at them.

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  • IsaacHayes
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    SHIT!!!! Ok I've got to call John and find out what bearings he used in this motor before it goes in...

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  • pocket-rocket
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    That's downright scary there...

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    Ok I just noticed, this is the SECOND set of cam bearings that I had do this to me... I used stock ones on the Milzy cam and they just got shiny and showed some copper after a while, but the same Sealed power set that I put in my 3400 that went in my first car had the same pitting and stuff... and that was a STOCK setup...

    Pic from when I took that apart...


    I guess I'm staying FAR away from Sealed Power Cam Bearings and Cloyes timing sets as far as aftermarket stuff goes... They are all crap even in a stock application. Their rod bearings held up fine though. Mains had to be replaced after 60k...

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  • pocket-rocket
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    <3 man caves. I want to replace my 29" Sony Wega with a projector and a screen in mine.

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  • 3400-95-Modified
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    I was using Mobil 1 0w30 and 5w30 and the last oil change it was Royal Purple 5w30

    Anyone want my old bearings... LOL

    And yes I do use corn oil... In my popcorn machine in my Man Cave!!!! THAT'S RIGHT!

    I got one of these suckers down with my 65" tv
    Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 01-28-2010, 11:16 AM.

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